The New Political Ethos

[RabbiKnife]

So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

[IMINXTC]

So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

There it is.

[IMINXTC]

Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion Washington Post. Story by Caroline Kitchener

“Mr. Davis is considering whether to sue individuals and organizations that participated in the murder of his unborn child,” Mitchell, widely known as the architect of Senate Bill 8, wrote in Davis’s complaint in March."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-man-files-legal-action-to-probe-ex-partner-s-out-of-state-abortion/ar-AA1o4SSv?cvid=71f0c193addc4b1dd338cfaa48cffa1a&ei=19&ocid=socialshare

[IMINXTC]

Just what we needed: to be drug through yet another salacious sex trial which is not a sex trial (of course).

EDIT: Sounds like a sex trial.

[IMINXTC]

Heard a woman political speaker today vehemently declare
that "reproductive freedom" is a "cornerstone of democracy."
 
Appears illiteracy is doing well in the poles.

[ProDeo]

So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

[RabbiKnife]

So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

Democracy is a horrible form of government.  As has been famously said, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on the lunch menu."  Democracy guarantees that the minority will be enslaved by the majority, that the wealth of the poor will be taken by a bloated bureacracy, and that those without power will be the perpetual underclass.

[IMINXTC]

It's clearly the so-called evangelicals who are the driving force behind this attempt to everthrow the U.S. democracy in support of a dictatorship.

Ban me, of course. Your site is now blocked anyway.

[RabbiKnife]

It's clearly the so-called evangelicals who are the driving force behind this attempt to everthrow the U.S. democracy in support of a dictatorship.

Ban me, of course. Your site is now blocked anyway.

There is not now and never has been a “US democracy.”

And no one is trying to overthrow anything.

[ProDeo]

So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

Democracy is a horrible form of government.  As has been famously said, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on the lunch menu."  Democracy guarantees that the minority will be enslaved by the majority, that the wealth of the poor will be taken by a bloated bureacracy, and that those without power will be the perpetual underclass.

Suggest something better and I will embrace it immediately.

[RabbiKnife]

Constitutional republic with separation of powers limited by citizens

[Oscar_Kipling]

It's clearly the so-called evangelicals who are the driving force behind this attempt to everthrow the U.S. democracy in support of a dictatorship.

Ban me, of course. Your site is now blocked anyway.

There is not now and never has been a “US democracy.”

And no one is trying to overthrow anything.

I mean, someone is trying to overthrow something, or at least some are doing what constitutes trying in their minds...which I can see how some might argue that being really loud, disingenuously self serious isn't a good try, but there is no accounting right? Point that where ever you like, and I'd say it applies.

 

[Oscar_Kipling]

So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

Democracy is a horrible form of government.  As has been famously said, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on the lunch menu."  Democracy guarantees that the minority will be enslaved by the majority, that the wealth of the poor will be taken by a bloated bureacracy, and that those without power will be the perpetual underclass.

I feel like this is where they all sort of tend though because these are the tendencies of people. I don't think Democracy is a terrible system, I just think that it is not as broadly applicable as some of us like to think, the implementation matters quite a bit, and getting people to buy into it is critical like lots of systems. I'd say the same thing about economic systems and kitchen appliances so in a way I aint said nothing.

[tango]

So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

Democracy is a horrible form of government.  As has been famously said, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on the lunch menu."  Democracy guarantees that the minority will be enslaved by the majority, that the wealth of the poor will be taken by a bloated bureacracy, and that those without power will be the perpetual underclass.

I feel like this is where they all sort of tend though because these are the tendencies of people. I don't think Democracy is a terrible system, I just think that it is not as broadly applicable as some of us like to think, the implementation matters quite a bit, and getting people to buy into it is critical like lots of systems. I'd say the same thing about economic systems and kitchen appliances so in a way I aint said nothing.

The biggest problem with democracy is that, as the whole "two wolves and a sheep" demonstrates, it does little to nothing to protect the rights of the minority.

If 99% of people want something banned, is that a reason to ban it in and of itself? Do the 1% of people who aren't harming anybody by doing it get any say in the matter? What about if 90% of people want something banned? What about 75%? 60%? 50.00001%?

Another issue with democracy is making sure people get a fair level of representation, particularly when governments get ever-larger and more remote. It doesn't seem right that the citizens of Manhatten should outvote the citizens of the whole of Montana, particularly when relating to issues that don't actually affect Manhatten. This is as much a case for local government as it is for a system other than strict democracy, but shows one of many weaknesses of democracy as it stands. Hence a system like the Electoral College that allocates a higher weight to the voters of California than to Montana but still makes sure the less populous states get at least some representation.

[ProDeo]

Constitutional republic with separation of powers limited by citizens

What will change?