Psalms 107:2 Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom he hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy;

Please invite the former BibleForums members to join us. And anyone else for that matter!!!

Contact The Parson
+-

Author Topic: The New Political Ethos  (Read 8068 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

RabbiKnife

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1295
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2024, 12:45:05 PM »
So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

IMINXTC

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 317
  • Time Bandit
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2024, 12:53:51 PM »
So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

There it is.

IMINXTC

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 317
  • Time Bandit
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2024, 02:21:03 PM »
Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion Washington Post. Story by Caroline Kitchener

“Mr. Davis is considering whether to sue individuals and organizations that participated in the murder of his unborn child,” Mitchell, widely known as the architect of Senate Bill 8, wrote in Davis’s complaint in March."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-man-files-legal-action-to-probe-ex-partner-s-out-of-state-abortion/ar-AA1o4SSv?cvid=71f0c193addc4b1dd338cfaa48cffa1a&ei=19&ocid=socialshare

IMINXTC

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 317
  • Time Bandit
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2024, 09:28:45 PM »
Just what we needed: to be drug through yet another salacious sex trial which is not a sex trial (of course).

EDIT: Sounds like a sex trial.

IMINXTC

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 317
  • Time Bandit
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2024, 06:39:14 PM »
Heard a woman political speaker today vehemently declare
that "reproductive freedom" is a "cornerstone of democracy."
 
Appears illiteracy is doing well in the poles.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2024, 06:49:06 PM by IMINXTC »

ProDeo

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 384
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2024, 01:13:04 AM »
So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

RabbiKnife

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1295
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2024, 06:21:26 AM »
So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

Democracy is a horrible form of government.  As has been famously said, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on the lunch menu."  Democracy guarantees that the minority will be enslaved by the majority, that the wealth of the poor will be taken by a bloated bureacracy, and that those without power will be the perpetual underclass.
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

IMINXTC

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 317
  • Time Bandit
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2024, 11:01:22 AM »
It's clearly the so-called evangelicals who are the driving force behind this attempt to everthrow the U.S. democracy in support of a dictatorship.

Ban me, of course. Your site is now blocked anyway.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2024, 11:04:10 AM by IMINXTC »

RabbiKnife

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1295
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2024, 12:20:35 PM »
It's clearly the so-called evangelicals who are the driving force behind this attempt to everthrow the U.S. democracy in support of a dictatorship.

Ban me, of course. Your site is now blocked anyway.

There is not now and never has been a “US democracy.”

And no one is trying to overthrow anything.
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

ProDeo

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 384
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2024, 01:33:59 PM »
So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

Democracy is a horrible form of government.  As has been famously said, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on the lunch menu."  Democracy guarantees that the minority will be enslaved by the majority, that the wealth of the poor will be taken by a bloated bureacracy, and that those without power will be the perpetual underclass.

Suggest something better and I will embrace it immediately.

RabbiKnife

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1295
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2024, 01:43:14 PM »
Constitutional republic with separation of powers limited by citizens
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

Oscar_Kipling

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 513
  • Tiresome Thinkbucket
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2024, 04:29:20 PM »
It's clearly the so-called evangelicals who are the driving force behind this attempt to everthrow the U.S. democracy in support of a dictatorship.

Ban me, of course. Your site is now blocked anyway.

There is not now and never has been a “US democracy.”

And no one is trying to overthrow anything.

I mean, someone is trying to overthrow something, or at least some are doing what constitutes trying in their minds...which I can see how some might argue that being really loud, disingenuously self serious isn't a good try, but there is no accounting right? Point that where ever you like, and I'd say it applies.

 

Oscar_Kipling

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 513
  • Tiresome Thinkbucket
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2024, 04:33:53 PM »
So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

Democracy is a horrible form of government.  As has been famously said, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on the lunch menu."  Democracy guarantees that the minority will be enslaved by the majority, that the wealth of the poor will be taken by a bloated bureacracy, and that those without power will be the perpetual underclass.

I feel like this is where they all sort of tend though because these are the tendencies of people. I don't think Democracy is a terrible system, I just think that it is not as broadly applicable as some of us like to think, the implementation matters quite a bit, and getting people to buy into it is critical like lots of systems. I'd say the same thing about economic systems and kitchen appliances so in a way I aint said nothing.

tango

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 290
  • Well that didn't go as planned.
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2024, 09:02:25 PM »
So it isn’t the form of government, it is the people that seek power.

As recently written elsewhere -

Simon Carmiggelt was a popular intellectual in the 60's, 70's and 80's who frequently had a short column on Dutch television on all kind of subjects. Famous (for me) was his column about democracy which I unfortunately can't find back on YouTube. Concluding he said - Two cheers for democracy. Not three, three is too much, two is enough. He saw the fragility of democracy.

Nowadays I would say, one cheer for democracy, the fragility of democracy is exploited by the maximum by 1) social media 2) Populists, Russian fake news, but 4) IMO most of all by Donald Trump.

Maybe we are heading for a time that democracy has no value at all and people are ready again for an autocracy with a strong leader to restore the chaos. We know how that will end.

Remember, Hitler was chosen democratically.

Democracy is a horrible form of government.  As has been famously said, "democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on the lunch menu."  Democracy guarantees that the minority will be enslaved by the majority, that the wealth of the poor will be taken by a bloated bureacracy, and that those without power will be the perpetual underclass.

I feel like this is where they all sort of tend though because these are the tendencies of people. I don't think Democracy is a terrible system, I just think that it is not as broadly applicable as some of us like to think, the implementation matters quite a bit, and getting people to buy into it is critical like lots of systems. I'd say the same thing about economic systems and kitchen appliances so in a way I aint said nothing.

The biggest problem with democracy is that, as the whole "two wolves and a sheep" demonstrates, it does little to nothing to protect the rights of the minority.

If 99% of people want something banned, is that a reason to ban it in and of itself? Do the 1% of people who aren't harming anybody by doing it get any say in the matter? What about if 90% of people want something banned? What about 75%? 60%? 50.00001%?

Another issue with democracy is making sure people get a fair level of representation, particularly when governments get ever-larger and more remote. It doesn't seem right that the citizens of Manhatten should outvote the citizens of the whole of Montana, particularly when relating to issues that don't actually affect Manhatten. This is as much a case for local government as it is for a system other than strict democracy, but shows one of many weaknesses of democracy as it stands. Hence a system like the Electoral College that allocates a higher weight to the voters of California than to Montana but still makes sure the less populous states get at least some representation.

ProDeo

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 384
    • View Profile
Re: The New Political Ethos
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2024, 03:27:40 AM »
Constitutional republic with separation of powers limited by citizens

What will change?

 

Recent Topics

New member Young pastor by Athanasius
Today at 05:33:34 AM

US Presidental Election by Fenris
November 19, 2024, 11:40:06 AM

When was the last time you were surprised? by Oscar_Kipling
November 13, 2024, 02:37:11 PM

I Knew Him-Simeon by Cloudwalker
November 13, 2024, 10:56:53 AM

Watcha doing? by tango
November 09, 2024, 06:03:27 PM

I Knew Him-The Wiseman by Cloudwalker
November 07, 2024, 01:08:38 PM

The Beast Revelation by tango
November 06, 2024, 09:31:27 AM

By the numbers by RabbiKnife
November 03, 2024, 03:52:38 PM

Hello by RabbiKnife
October 31, 2024, 06:10:56 PM

Israel, Hamas, etc by Athanasius
October 22, 2024, 03:08:14 AM

I Knew Him-The Shepherd by Cloudwalker
October 16, 2024, 02:28:00 PM

Prayer for my wife by ProDeo
October 15, 2024, 02:57:10 PM

Antisemitism by Fenris
October 15, 2024, 02:44:25 PM

Church Abuse/ Rebuke by tango
October 10, 2024, 10:49:09 AM

I Knew Him-The Innkeeper by Cloudwalker
October 07, 2024, 11:24:36 AM

Has anyone heard from Parson lately? by Athanasius
October 01, 2024, 04:26:50 AM

Thankful by Sojourner
September 28, 2024, 06:46:33 PM

I Knew Him-Joseph by Cloudwalker
September 28, 2024, 01:57:39 PM

Riddle by RabbiKnife
September 28, 2024, 08:04:58 AM

just wanted to say by ProDeo
September 28, 2024, 04:53:45 AM

Powered by EzPortal
Sitemap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 
free website promotion

Free Web Submission