The Next Prophesied Event

[keraz]

Isaiah 61:1-2a The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me. He has sent me to announce good news to the humble, to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and to proclaim a year of the Lords favor,

Isaiah 61:2b-3...and a Day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn, to give then garlands instead of ashes, oil of gladness, instead of mourners tears and  a garment of splendor for the distressed. They will be called trees of righteousness, planted by the Lord for His adornment.

Isaiah 61:4-11 Buildings long in ruin and desolate will be restored and rebuilt. Foreigners will serve you, caring for your flocks and vines, but you will be called priests of the Lord and the wealth of the nations will be yours. Because My people have received insults and shame in double measure, they will receive in their own Land, wealth in double measure.
For I, the Lord love justice and hate injustice, I shall give My people a sure reward and make an everlasting Covenant with them. Their posterity will be renowned among the nations, they will be seen as a people blessed by the Lord.

Let us rejoice in the Lord with all our hearts. From Him has come victory and deliverance. His people, robed in beauty are like a garden full of flowers. The Lord will make His victory and renown known to the nations.                                                                  Reference: REB, NIV, KJV. Some verses abridged.

Isaiah 61:1-2a, was quoted by Jesus at the commencement of His ministry;.... a year of the Lord’s favor’.  He stopped in mid sentence and then said: Today, in your hearing, this prophecy has come true.
Therefore, the rest of this chapter is unfulfilled prophecy. So, we look for the sequence of events to unfold as written, commencing with:
‘a Day of vengeance of our God’ - The next prophesied event. Not the Return of Jesus in His glory, but His punishment to the nations, triggered by an attack on Israel. This is prophesied and described comprehensively throughout the Bible as a terrible disaster by fire, that will affect the whole world. Isaiah 63:1-6, Isaiah 30:26
‘comfort all who mourn’ - All who love the Lord and follow in His Laws, those who mourn His death on the cross. Zechariah 12:9-10
‘trees of righteousness, planted in their own Land’ - His people: all faithful Christians, Jews and Gentiles are gathered and settled in His holy Land, into all of that area promised to the Patriarchs, to their descendants by faith, Galatians 3:26-29, in the new country of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 20:34-36, Isaiah 26:15
‘buildings rebuilt and the land restored’ - After the devastation caused by a CME sunstrike, The Lord will regenerate the Land, Ezekiel 36:8 but buildings must be rebuilt, including the new Temple. Isaiah 65:21, Zechariah 6:15
‘foreigners will serve you’  - Isaiah 60:10...foreigners will rebuild your walls...
‘wealth of the nations will be yours’ - Zechariah 14:14  The same as what happened at the first Exodus. Exodus 11:2
‘make a Covenant with them’  - Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 34:25, Hebrews 8:10-12
‘from Him has come victory and deliverance’ -  Psalms 91:14-16, Psalms 44:4-7
‘known to the nations’ -  Ezekiel 39:21, Isaiah 40:5               

[keraz]

Dies Irae - the Day of Wrath:  [lyrics abridged. Based on Zephaniah 1:14-18]

The day of wrath, the day of wrath, that day
Will break up the world into ash
Will break up the world into ash
As testified by David and the Sybil
The day of wrath, the day of wrath, the day of wrath
How much trembling there will be
When the judge comes
And strictly examines all things

Dies Irae’ (literally, Day of Wrath) is a medieval Latin poem, and one of the most famous melodies of the Gregorian Chant. In its original form, it’s a four-note melody describing Judgment Day, the prophesied day when humanity will be Judged and punished by God on His Day of fiery wrath.

But what does it all mean?
To give you a hint, choral composer Bob Chilcott, who conducted the Requiem at the Royal Albert Hall, told the Guardian at the time: “It’s about judgment, about the end of the world,” he says. “If you believe what it says, then we’re all stuffed.”

Fortunately we believe the Bible and although over 100 Bible prophesies are about this forthcoming terrible Day, we are assured of the Lord’s protection through it and the world will continue on, as it did after Noah’s Flood.

The sad part is that many Christians are unaware of it, what triggers it, what the Lord will use and the events after that literal day is over.

[agnostic]

What is the "event"?

A prediction of the future that is so vague that it can't be identified until after the fact (by which time it's too late?) seems like it fails in its function.

[keraz]

The next prophesied event will be the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17
It is graphically described to us in over 100 Bible passages.  Proved by Isaiah 61:2, where Jesus stopped His quote before; and a day of the vengeance of our God.

That people fail to see it is because they have already decided what they want God to do for them, or else it is just the general apathy and avoidance of the Prophetic Word of Christians and most pastors.

I could post many scriptures here to help your understanding.
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[agnostic]

The next prophesied event will be the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17

Okay, but what is the event?

When will it happen? A year? Ten? A hundred? Two thousand?

What will be the cause of it? What should people be looking for before it happens in order to know it's about to happen?

What is the hermeneutic you use that finds a connection between Revelation 6 and Isaiah 61?

When you say "people fail to see it because they...", you are inventing a motivation you can assign to countless people outside yourself, which I think is impossible to do honestly. Most people will "fail to see" what you see, because the obscure lens through which you see is being withheld from them.

[keraz]

It will be the event that 'comes as a thief', we cannot know the day it will happen. But we can know the season and the signs. They point to a quite close fulfilment. Maybe before the end of this year, judging by the turmoil in the Middle East, with Iran getting nukes and Israel in political turmoil.

Revelation 6:17 and Isaiah 61:2, both say it is the Lord's Day of vengeance and wrath which will commence the end time sequence.

'People can't see it'.... Isaiah 29:9-12 tells us why; because people have chosen to believe false theories and doctrines, their eyes are closed and their ears are stopped.
Only by renouncing all mans ideas and fables, 2 Timothy 4:3-4, can anyone come to an understanding of what God actually has planned for our future.  Most people will be shocked and surprised when the=is disaster strikes. Isaiah 2:12-22

[agnostic]

Maybe before the end of this year, judging by the turmoil in the Middle East, with Iran getting nukes and Israel in political turmoil.

I have been hearing this same claim made for decades. It's not a compelling reason when the last few thousand predictions by people just like yourself, each one with their own special hermeneutic, were all wrong.

Who was to blame? The people making predictions that the end would happen X year with a 100% failure rate? Or the people who doubted the predictions with a 100% failure rate?

Without tangible, compelling evidence that sets you apart, it is far more likely these predictions will be added to the long list of failed predictions.

'People can't see it'.... Isaiah 29:9-12 tells us why; because people have chosen to believe false theories and doctrines, their eyes are closed and their ears are stopped.

Verse 10 says God is the one who made them unable to see. It's not fair to blame a blind person unable to see when God is the one who blinded them to begin with. Which is it? Does he want us to see or not? If he does, why does he blind us? If he doesn't, why does he blame us? It's a self-defeating criticism.

[Athanasius]

That people fail to see it is because they have already decided what they want God to do for them, or else it is just the general apathy and avoidance of the Prophetic Word of Christians and most pastors.

Or maybe you're just wrong. Maybe these people understand the eschatological significance of their lives here-and-now and don't fixate on, for example, end-times wet dreams of Israel getting nuked. Maybe this next prophecy of yours has already been heard before in recent memory: World War I? World War II? The cold war?

The world is always on the brink, but I guess someone is going to be just lucky enough to be peddling their wares when - if as understood - it actually happens, and then they'll be the person to claim, when the nukes drop, 'see, I told you all!' Obviously, this would be the most appropriate moment to bathe in the knowledge that one was right -- as the death toll rises.

[keraz]

The thing is, guys; that God has not given us so much prophecy for no reason.  We are NOT meant to be in the dark.
1 Thess 5:4   
We should be aware of what must happen according to God's Master Plan. Sure there have always been those who say they have the knowledge and make predictions that discredit them.

But I have compiled a time line using scriptures that shows we are now at year 5991 since Adam. Abraham went to Canaan at year 2000, Jesus was Crucified at year 4000 and He will Return at year 6000.
In just 9 years +/- 1 or 2, depending on what part of the year things happen.

To call the probability of Israel being nuked by Iran, as a 'wet dream', is sheer foolishness and also shows a serious lack of Bible prophecy knowledge.  We are told in the Bible, how the enemies of Israel will attempt to send a arrow [a missile] tipped with fire and how the Lord will then destroy them all. Psalms 7:12-16, Ezekiel 7:14

[Athanasius]

The thing is, guys; that God has not given us so much prophecy for no reason.  We are NOT meant to be in the dark.
1 Thess 5:4   
We should be aware of what must happen according to God's Master Plan. Sure there have always been those who say they have the knowledge and make predictions that discredit them.

But I have compiled a time line using scriptures that shows we are now at year 5991 since Adam. Abraham went to Canaan at year 2000, Jesus was Crucified at year 4000 and He will Return at year 6000.
In just 9 years +/- 1 or 2, depending on what part of the year things happen.

To call the probability of Israel being nuked by Iran, as a 'wet dream', is sheer foolishness and also shows a serious lack of Bible prophecy knowledge.  We are told in the Bible, how the enemies of Israel will attempt to send a arrow [a missile] tipped with fire and how the Lord will then destroy them all. Psalms 7:12-16, Ezekiel 7:14

You can consider it foolishness but not a 'serious lack of Bible prophecy knowledge'. Clearly, I'm following along, and clearly, it's a curious thing to be looking forward to the (attempted) nuclear destruction of a people - which if we know anything will be precipitated by skirmishes and death - as if the mere expectation of the fulfilment of prophecy exempts one from one's usual moral duties (imagine how the prophetically fixated Christian reacted in 1948). It's a wet dream exactly because you relish in this gnostic knowledge of yours, and lord it over others -- or dismiss them as being blind, apathetic, believers of false theories and doctrines, demanding things of God, and so on. It's all too convenient.

By all means, offer what you think is the correct understanding of the verses provided, but this dismissing of others in inappropriate, and "the sad part is that many Christians are unaware of it..." is not the sad part. The sad part is how many people will die outside of Christ in these end-times prophetic scenarios. We're given this academic treatment of some suggested future reality as if those who suffer had it coming to them (but of course they did, it's 'judgment'), and we dispense with a world that Christ died to save in favour of Jesus, our own little safety net.

[Redeemed]

But I have compiled a time line using scriptures that shows we are now at year 5991 since Adam. Abraham went to Canaan at year 2000, Jesus was Crucified at year 4000 and He will Return at year 6000.
In just 9 years +/- 1 or 2, depending on what part of the year things happen.

How does your timeline correlate with Matthew 24?

[agnostic]

The thing is, guys; that God has not given us so much prophecy for no reason.

Okay, but that's not what we're asking.

We're asking, why should your hermeneutic which has led you to make these predictions be trusted over every other hermeneutic that resulted in countless failed predictions?

In terms of sheer probabilities, there is no compelling reason to trust your predictions will be the exception to the rule, especially when you haven't provided anything more tangible than "because I said so".

[RandyPNW]

I think setting up a *possible* time line is reasonable, when the Millennial Day theory has been around since the Early Church. It isn't like pinpointing the day and hour of Christ's Coming, but rather, giving us a general idea of where we are in history, with respect to Biblical Prophecy.

I certainly don't see it as definitive, since it just isn't taught in the Scriptures. The surest thing to go by, when trying to prognosticate, is to look at the overall blueprint, to see how close to finishing the house we are.

Israel was the initial model for all other nations. And then we can see, after the Cross, forgiving Israel, the multitude of nations that have either accepted Christianity for their government, or who have allowed some influence into their countries.

And just as Israel over time fell back to the lowest common denominator, and capitulated to idolatry, so today, former Christian nations have capitulated to religious pluralism, which is another way of describing not just tolerance, but tolerance of idolatry. (I'm certainly not here speaking of Christian Inquisitions, but rather, of the kind of tolerance that gives a green light to despicable immoral or violent behavior.)

When we get to the point where Christianity is abandoned in favor of idolatry, other religions spring up, and their accompanying corruptions. It is then that God begins, again, to pour out both national and world judgments.

This is the kind of timeline that is preferable to a mere timing scheme, or prophetic calendar. But I can find no fault in the Millennial Day theory. It seems like it does correspond to the predicted Great Apostasy among the nations, particularly in the Christian West. And we do see judgment arising, in plagues, wars, and rumors of wars.

[agnostic]

Abraham went to Canaan at year 2000, Jesus was Crucified at year 4000 and He will Return at year 6000.

Also, since this timeline is the only clear, falsifiable claim being made in a Bible Talk thread, we should look at it.

With timelines like this, it's always wise to consider why the specific anchor points are chosen. The outlier here is Abraham going into Canaan. What's it got to do with anything? Why not the year when Isaac was born? Or Jacob? Or the exodus? Likewise, how do we possibly know what year Jesus was crucified? The gospels don't provide enough information. The narrowest range we can determine is 29-36 AD.

Timelines like this also require adding up the patriarchs' ages in Genesis 5, 6, 11, and 12. The Masoretic, Septuagint, and Samaritan versions of Genesis vary considerably on these numbers, especially for the antediluvian patriarchs. (This is because all three text traditions try to solve the problem of several patriarchs surviving the flood in the vorlage.) No matter which text tradition we use, none of them put Abraham's journey to Canaan in the year 2000. In the Masoretic, Abram entered Canaan around year 2021. (Weird coincidence.) In the Samaritan, he entered around year 2322. In the Septuagint, year 3257. In the vorlage, year 2357. The closest version is the Masoretic, off by just 21 years, but this can't be the version we use, because Jesus' genealogy in Luke 3 includes Cainan son of Arpachshad and father of Shelah, who is only mentioned in the Septuagint.

The timeline just doesn't work. The clearest gospel, Luke, follows the Septuagint version of Genesis, putting Abram's entry into Canaan in year 2322. And we just don't know what year Jesus was crucified.

[keraz]

7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind:
 
Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BC subtracted back from 586 BCE, from:
Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 7:6 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10       Our year 2314.5 BC

 Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18  Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE   He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4           
   Total years so far = 2000

Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8
Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BC.
[Many ancient records say Comet Typhon passed close the earth at that time. It was the cause of many of the disasters in Egypt.]

1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:33 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:36 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18-20 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year of 586 BC.

Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5
586 BC + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5/30 AD, the date of Jesus’ acknowledgment as King of Israel.     Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement. 
                          3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years from Adam to Jesus.

January 2021 AD - 29.5/30 AD = 1991.5 years since Jesus made His triumphal entry into Jerusalem on the first Palm Sunday
1991.5 + 4000 = 5991.5 years, is where we are now. 5991.5 + 8.5 = 6000 years
2021 AD + 8.5 = 2029.5 AD
 
Exactly 2000 years for the present Church age, until Jesus Returns.
4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of King Jesus.

7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind.
Those who have been found worthy will go into Eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5