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Oscar_Kipling

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Re: Israel, Hamas, etc
« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2024, 03:06:05 PM »

So either you're lying or you have multiple personalities. Which personality am I talking to now?  The one that thinks resistance is a waste of time? Or the one that thinks there is value it "petite rebellions"? And why does that personality think it's ok to lecture victims of murder and genocide on what they should or shouldn't be doing?

Multiple personality disorder? I didn't know you were a psychiatrist from 1973 Fenris, lol.  Anyway I commend your very lateral thinking, but the answer is much simpler and much more common: Yes, I did initially say that , but you convinced me that nonviolent resistance is a waste of time. I'd also like to point out that I didn't just promote nonviolent resistance because my very next sentence read "...and if you have the opportunity to build a first of its kind bomb, do that too, or join a military, or intelligence organization or help find homes for displaced Jews. Plenty of Jews did those things and more during WW2.". However, it turns out that not only did the nonviolent Jewish resistances 'fail', but the violent/armed ones failed as well, and so were likewise also a waste of time. So, no, I don't have multiple personalities, I just see now that instead of admiring WW2 Jews for subtly sabotaging German operations through small acts of nonviolent rebellion (like the V2 rocket production) and suggesting that I promote such acts, I should have rightfully viewed not only those nonviolent acts as a waste of time, but I should have also viewed the failed armed rebellions as a waste of time. Any form of rebellion that does not directly result in liberation or fails to defeat/destroy the enemy is a waste of time. Do you see any flaws in this line of reasoning or are we in complete agreement now?
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Fenris

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« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2024, 11:44:51 AM »
Yes, I did initially say that , but you convinced me that nonviolent resistance is a waste of time.
Then why not just say this in the first place, instead of making two opposing comments on the same page? You said the second comment with as much conviction as the first, with no explanation, as though it were an opinion that you always held. I mean it's not like you don't like to type, you make 500 word posts all the time.

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I should have also viewed the failed armed rebellions as a waste of time. Any form of rebellion that does not directly result in liberation or fails to defeat/destroy the enemy is a waste of time.
Again with this telling the victims of genocide what to do and how to behave. There's an old saying, when you're in a hole, stop digging. It's not your place to say. It's not my place to say.

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« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2024, 04:51:03 PM »
Again with this telling the victims of genocide what to do and how to behave. There's an old saying, when you're in a hole, stop digging. It's not your place to say. It's not my place to say.

Actually you're the one who introduced the idea that passive resistance against the Nazis is a waste of time. I'm just trying to clarify that we both agree that Jews who passively resisted the Nazis during world war 2 wasted their time, just like you said. When I say it is it somehow different than when you say it? Or are we both telling those dead Jewish people that the choices they made were just a waste of time?

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« Reply #78 on: October 20, 2024, 09:31:38 PM »
The leader of Hamas, Sinwar, has been killed in Gaza. The world is a better place for it.

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« Reply #79 on: October 20, 2024, 10:28:50 PM »
Good riddance. After the attempt on Netanyahu and his wife, the Ayatollah would do well to stay hunkered down in his hidey hole.
Standing before the Judgment Throne we will retain only two things from this life: what God gave us, and what we accomplished with it.

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« Reply #80 on: October 21, 2024, 07:50:55 AM »
The leader of Hamas, Sinwar, has been killed in Gaza. The world is a better place for it.

I can't even being to tell you what Col. Little Brother had to say about Sinwar's, um, assumption of room temperature.

It was colorful, amusing, and somewhat graphic to say the least!

Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

Fenris

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« Reply #81 on: October 21, 2024, 11:00:28 AM »
Good riddance. After the attempt on Netanyahu and his wife, the Ayatollah would do well to stay hunkered down in his hidey hole.
Yup. The Israeli response for Iran's ballistic missile attack is yet forthcoming.

It's really amazing that Iran fired hundreds of ICBMs at Israel and yet not a single Israeli was harmed. It really brought to mind Isaiah 54:17 "...no weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and this is their vindication from me,” declares the LORD.

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« Reply #82 on: October 21, 2024, 11:02:41 AM »
The leader of Hamas, Sinwar, has been killed in Gaza. The world is a better place for it.
I can't even being to tell you what Col. Little Brother had to say about Sinwar's, um, assumption of room temperature.
So naturally Biden Harris is taking this as an opening for another diplomatic solution. Because what's left of Hamas shouldn't be destroyed, but rescued.

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« Reply #83 on: October 21, 2024, 11:41:09 AM »
The leader of Hamas, Sinwar, has been killed in Gaza. The world is a better place for it.
I can't even being to tell you what Col. Little Brother had to say about Sinwar's, um, assumption of room temperature.
So naturally Biden Harris is taking this as an opening for another diplomatic solution. Because what's left of Hamas shouldn't be destroyed, but rescued.

The Colonel started our conversation with "Well, you have to hand it to Sinwar..."  Then he giggled like a little girl, very unColonel-like.  Then he said, "Sinwar pointed to his right hand man."  More giggles.  Then he said "Sinwar is embarassed that the maid hasn't been in to clean up the dust..."  More giggles.

Then, being an armored officer, he simply said...  (For all the non-tread-heads [non-tank crew types]), this is the basic communication that a tank commander and his gunner might have just before firing

Gunner.
Target.
HE.  (High explosive)
Douchebag.
On the way.

More giggles.  I finally hung up on him.  I think he enjoyed the video a bit...
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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« Reply #84 on: October 22, 2024, 03:08:14 AM »
Some lawyer was complaining Sinwar's death meant he'd never get justice because he wouldn't be able be charged, etc.

I told her, but lawyer lady, he *did* get charged.
Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

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« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2024, 10:56:01 AM »
Syria is under a new government.

I think the flow of events is quite fascinating.

Sinwar and Hamas attack Israel on 10/7/23, murdering 1200 and taking hundreds of hostages.

In response, Israel smashes Hamas. Hizbullah as another Iranian proxy can't stay out, so they too attack Israel. Israel smashes Hizbullah. Assad in Syria is kept in power by the Russians and by Hizbullah. But the Russians are distracted in Ukraine and Hizbullah has been decimated. So the rebels throw Assad out.

So in a way, Sinwar's decision to attack Israel ended up destroying Hamas, Hizbullah, and now Syria.

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« Reply #86 on: December 08, 2024, 12:30:23 PM »
I must say I loved the smile on BiBis face looking out over the valley from the peak of Mt Herman….

Reminds me of a song by this kid/shepherd/warrior/king guy….

Something something the dew in Mt Herman… flowing down like oil on Aarons beard!!!!
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

 

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