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RandyPNW

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Re: US Russian Hoax
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2022, 10:01:52 PM »
That which is spoken in the darkness will be shouted from the rooftops

No need to fret because if evildoers

God’s got this

Thanks brother! It sounds like you're on the right side of this? :)

Didn't know that we were choosing "sides":

Praying that God would have mercy on all of us, individually and nationally,
for our evil hearts and actions,
for our worship of political parties and political leaders,
for our reliance and faith on political solutions outside of God,
for our wringing of our hands in anxiety,
for our vilification of our "enemies" instead of our heartfelt and grateful prayers for their salvation,
for our idolatry in our worship of so-called media and journalism,
for the evil, vile, and ungodly things we say in our hearts and out of our blowholes about elected officials,
for our blood lust to finally "get even with them",
for our voyeuristic fascination with scandal, corruption, and the general sinful world in which we live,
for the desire for revenge,

all "in Jesus' name," of course, couched in the charade of "truth, justice, and the American way."

I am revolted and nauseated by the church in North America.  Including the one I attend.


I think in rejecting your own church and the American Church you are taking sides. "Choose this day whom you will serve." And I'm not saying you're necessarily taking the wrong side--you are apparently just rejecting hypocritical Christianity?

On a negative day I sound just like you, and I do have a lot of negative days. And I do agree that the American Church largely has gone the way of compromise and lukewarmness. I just don't expect perfection out of Christianity overall--just reasonably embraced and practiced Christian standards.

But I won't apologize for my political views where they conform with biblical principles. I just have to remember that in all of my theology and arguments I have to stay true to God's voice in my conscience. Thanks for your prayer, otherwise.

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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2022, 10:32:27 PM »
A reason why msm has not begun voicing strongly against the Durham Report, is because they have not received the outline for a narrative against all the indictments. Why I say this... because the WH has not addressed this at all. But when they have an outline for a narrative, then the msm will be let loose while the WH gurgitates and regurgitates the narrative.

All we hear right now from the msm is that the report is "disinformation." Translation... they don't have anything to say against the truth, so they are waiting for words to gurgitate and regurgitate.

Once the gurgitation and regurgitation begins, in about a month someone savy in collecting news casts from the msm will put together a collage of vids where tons of anchors  will be regurgitating the EXACT same words from the narrative script provided by their handlers.

Here is an example:


https://rumble.com/embed/v8lfer/?pub=4
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2022, 05:52:55 AM »
The MSM, Whitehouse, President, and whatever conspiratorial actors you have in mind are going to win because by the time anything is said, if anything is said, America will be well past the event in question. Kennedy's bay of pigs disaster? Oh hey, Marilyn though! Nixon had a war on cancer? Awesome. The Biden election was questionable? Good to know, we'll do better in the future.

Conglomerate owned media isn't good for society? Who could have guessed? So, where does the Christian's responsibility lie in all of this?
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2022, 06:20:18 AM »
The MSM, Whitehouse, President, and whatever conspiratorial actors you have in mind are going to win because by the time anything is said, if anything is said, America will be well past the event in question. Kennedy's bay of pigs disaster? Oh hey, Marilyn though! Nixon had a war on cancer? Awesome. The Biden election was questionable? Good to know, we'll do better in the future.

Conglomerate owned media isn't good for society? Who could have guessed? So, where does the Christian's responsibility lie in all of this?

Romans 12 and 13
Jeremiah 29
Matthew 28
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2022, 09:18:56 AM »
I have been noting sporadic coverage by liberal outlets, who at this point call it "old news" or "disinformation." But at some point they're going to have to eat their pride and admit something was amiss.
I rather doubt that.

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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2022, 09:22:46 AM »
Jeremiah 29
One of my favorites.

This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says to all those I carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon:  “Build houses and settle down; plant gardens and eat what they produce. Marry and have sons and daughters; find wives for your sons and give your daughters in marriage, so that they too may have sons and daughters. Increase in number there; do not decrease. Also, seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you into exile. Pray to the Lord for it, because if it prospers, you too will prosper.”

Don't mourn overmuch. Be good, productive citizens. And when you reach out to Me, I will reach out to you.

For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.  I will be found by you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile.”

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2022, 09:59:15 AM »
Jeremiah 29
One of my favorites.

This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says to all those I carried into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon:  “Build houses and settle down; plant gardens and eat what they produce. Marry and have sons and daughters; find wives for your sons and give your daughters in marriage, so that they too may have sons and daughters. Increase in number there; do not decrease. Also, seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you into exile. Pray to the Lord for it, because if it prospers, you too will prosper.”

Don't mourn overmuch. Be good, productive citizens. And when you reach out to Me, I will reach out to you.

For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.  I will be found by you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you,” declares the Lord, “and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile.”

But, but, but... ENEMIES!  Wrong political people in Babylon!  We're doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed.

One good thing about all this political and sociological unrest... One's faith becomes either self-evident or not...
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2022, 04:48:37 PM »
One good thing about all this political and sociological unrest... One's faith becomes either self-evident or not...
Yeah all the worrying is quite the thing.

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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2022, 01:09:52 PM »
I have been noting sporadic coverage by liberal outlets, who at this point call it "old news" or "disinformation." But at some point they're going to have to eat their pride and admit something was amiss.
I rather doubt that.

Yea, certainly there will never be any full-on owning up to the wrongs done. That would appear to the Democratic Party to be political suicide. Repentance, in politics, is more like putting a spin on it and saying, "We're sorry you think we had bad motives when we tried to illegally beat you. Our political agenda always has the correct political matters in mind, and of course, our political solutions are best for the American people."

But recently, I've seen Democrat groups across the country beginning to question whether keeping Biden propped up, media-wise, is worth it. He appears to be a "sinking ship." As the mid-term elections approach, we're seeing changes in the staunch position held earlier, that we must "follow the science" in he Pandemic. All of a sudden, the virus is done, and we should "move on," even though current episodes are at about where they were when the mask mandates were first suggested.

That said, I do agree the pandemic seems to be winding down in its current phase, and I never have been for mask mandates. But this has never been solely about the public health, although I won't deny that it wasn't. More, it was about who held the steering wheel in our government, guiding the public on the best path. And as Biden became more like a "lost cause," the unified voice of Democrats began to change.

As we approach the congressional elections, the polarized political climate will not allow any Democrat "apologies." What we'll likely get are changes in political positions only because Democrat leaders are beating the virus, ending climate change, and bringing justice to the Ukrainians.

And any illegal election activities of the past will simply be given a sentence or two buried in the pages of the newspaper, or not reported on at all in the mainstream media. Hopefully, our judicial system will still have a say in that, and Durham will not be buried along with the anti-Trump rhetoric.

My hope is that the truth cannot be contained, that the internet will force reality upon all the networks and Democratic groups so that they either admit their wrongs or double down to the point where they are utterly broken at the polls.

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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2022, 01:20:08 PM »
But recently, I've seen Democrat groups across the country beginning to question whether keeping Biden propped up, media-wise, is worth it.
Yes, Democrats and even CNN appear to be turning on Biden. But they're turning on Biden, the man, not the far-left program. "Biden is old" or "Biden is ineffective" they say. But they aren't going to give up on their wishlist because that would mean admitting wrongness, which they won't do. Heck, they're dropping mask mandates in blue states- not because the mask mandate was wrong, but because "the science has changed".

Very clever, see.

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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2022, 03:22:50 PM »
Biden was always going to be the fall guy, the useful idiot, the US' electoral salvation from a Trumpian second term and that was all. Not even the memers are bothering with his Barackian bromance. But like Fenris was saying, this is in keeping with the ultimate aim.

The true horror for those in RandyPWN's shoes is the realisation that at the top there are no Democrats or Republicans. We mere humans at the bottom become fixated with invented political games in a world where the top truly is a Foucauldian abyss of endless power plays. Those in America celebrate their free elections because they have a dichotomy before them. Two is better than one, I suppose. One is just too obvious.

Or is that too cynical?
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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2022, 03:36:25 PM »
Or is that too cynical?
It's pretty cynical.

However, the fact that government only seems to grow in scope and power, regardless of who's in office, makes me wonder if you are correct on saying this.

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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2022, 01:29:35 AM »
But recently, I've seen Democrat groups across the country beginning to question whether keeping Biden propped up, media-wise, is worth it.
Yes, Democrats and even CNN appear to be turning on Biden. But they're turning on Biden, the man, not the far-left program. "Biden is old" or "Biden is ineffective" they say. But they aren't going to give up on their wishlist because that would mean admitting wrongness, which they won't do. Heck, they're dropping mask mandates in blue states- not because the mask mandate was wrong, but because "the science has changed".

Very clever, see.

I agree. At least control over the public in the name of "public health" seems to be softening. And they will then no longer get control for "beating the disease."

My hope is that even as Democrats relax their "mandates" the public will not soon forget that they represent a kind of tyranny that could erupt at any time, and favor only certain groups. Dividing the country into Black and White, student or non-student, Gay or Straight, Male of Female, will ultimately lead them to pick and choose who they want to spend our money on. That means the public generally will lose their trust in them.

Of course, the lust for power is never going to be resident in only one political party. The beauty of our system is that it has a pendulum that can swing one way or the other, as the public eventually figures out each respective "scam." ;)

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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2022, 01:38:39 AM »
Biden was always going to be the fall guy, the useful idiot, the US' electoral salvation from a Trumpian second term and that was all. Not even the memers are bothering with his Barackian bromance. But like Fenris was saying, this is in keeping with the ultimate aim.

Absolutely true. Nobody could've guessed Biden would even be nominated, a failure in his time! A guy who plagiarizes speeches, and is accused of always choosing wrong on an issue. Apparently it's come his time because the Left has assumed power now, and Biden can be the guy to lead that losing campaign?

Who would even select a guy who is losing his ability to speak and walk, who continues to scream every time someone challenges or disagrees with him, who mocks people and pretends to be compassionate? But if we dare mention that the Media biased the last elections we would be banned from public discourse. Yes, Biden could survive that kind of election.

The true horror for those in RandyPWN's shoes is the realisation that at the top there are no Democrats or Republicans. We mere humans at the bottom become fixated with invented political games in a world where the top truly is a Foucauldian abyss of endless power plays. Those in America celebrate their free elections because they have a dichotomy before them. Two is better than one, I suppose. One is just too obvious.

Or is that too cynical?

I used  to say this back when I was in school--How much better are we than the Communists who get to choose for one candidate--we only get to choose from two (in reality)? By the time a politician climbs the ladder to the top, how much does he owe, and to whom? I got excited when a populist Presidential candidate, who was a billionaire, said he sought office only for his grandchildren and wanted to fight for the America he saw as disappearing. As long as people think like this, there is still hope.....maybe?

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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2022, 09:12:32 AM »
Hope in Jesus, yes

Hope in man? No

Hope in man’s political structures,  no

Hope in the people of a nation?  Only if they follow God’s plan revealed to Solomon at the dedication of the Temple
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

 

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