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[Fenris]

My hope is that even as Democrats relax their "mandates" the public will not soon forget that they represent a kind of tyranny that could erupt at any time, and favor only certain groups. Dividing the country into Black and White, student or non-student, Gay or Straight, Male of Female, will ultimately lead them to pick and choose who they want to spend our money on. That means the public generally will lose their trust in them.

One can certainly hope.

[Fenris]

Hope in man? No

Hope in man’s political structures,  no

Correct. And yet I still vote.

Also remember Mordechai's asking Esther to use her royal position to save the Jews "For if you remain silent at this time, relief and deliverance for the Jews will arise from another place, but you and your father’s family will perish. And who knows but that you have come to your royal position for such a time as this?” (Esther 4:14)

Or the delicious twist at the end of the story "Then Harbonah, one of the eunuchs attending the king, said: “There is a gallows fifty cubits high at Haman’s house. He had it built for Mordecai, who gave the report that saved the king.” “Hang him on it!” declared the king. So they hanged Haman on the gallows he had prepared for Mordecai. (Esther 7:9-10)

So us humans do have our part to play.

[RandyPNW]

Hope in Jesus, yes

Hope in man? No

Hope in man’s political structures,  no

Hope in the people of a nation?  Only if they follow God’s plan revealed to Solomon at the dedication of the Temple

I'm talking about being *hopeful*--not *put my faith in.*
I think you're completely right. Faith only in God and in His word--not in Man! I don't even trust myself to get my daily chores done!

[Athanasius]

There's something to be said for the 'Uses of Pessimism and the Dangers of False Hope' (Scruton, 2010).

[RandyPNW]

There's something to be said for the 'Uses of Pessimism and the Dangers of False Hope' (Scruton, 2010).

Both of which are properly processed through critical thinking to a positive effect. Leave it to a conservative thinker to not become overly ideological.

[Fenris]

There's something to be said for the 'Uses of Pessimism and the Dangers of False Hope' (Scruton, 2010).

There's a bitter joke about German Jews in the 1930s: The pessimists went into exile, and the optimists went into the gas chambers.

[Fenris]

Leave it to a conservative thinker to not become overly ideological.

By definition, conservative thinkers are just as ideological as liberal thinkers.

[RandyPNW]

Leave it to a conservative thinker to not become overly ideological.

By definition, conservative thinkers are just as ideological as liberal thinkers.

Depends on whose Dictionary you're reading.

[Athanasius]

Leave it to a conservative thinker to not become overly ideological.

By definition, conservative thinkers are just as ideological as liberal thinkers.

Depends on whose Dictionary you're reading.

The one we all read. The issue isn't ideology necessarily, but idealogues.

[RabbiKnife]

Leave it to a conservative thinker to not become overly ideological.

By definition, conservative thinkers are just as ideological as liberal thinkers.

Depends on whose Dictionary you're reading.

Ah, the Humpty Dumpty Paradigm…

Popular in politics, So called Biblical exposition, and interpersonal communications everywhere today

[Fenris]

Depends on whose Dictionary you're reading.

Nope. Conservatives see the world through a certain lens, and liberals see it through a different lens. Such a simple thing to say. You should try to see the world as another person sees it. Even if you think they're wrong.

[RandyPNW]

Depends on whose Dictionary you're reading.

Nope. Conservatives see the world through a certain lens, and liberals see it through a different lens. Such a simple thing to say. You should try to see the world as another person sees it. Even if you think they're wrong.

I do see the world from how my detractors see it, or the way other viewpoints see it, or the way Progressives see it. I've been there and done that. In my youth I was very idealistic, as I think all young students are. They want to believe in Shangri-La.

And in case you've been dead to politics over the last few years, and I know you weren't, you would see how the Left and the Right take the same set of facts and spin them differently.

I really have the conviction that more conservative viewpoints tend towards a greater objectivity, whereas by definition progressives wish to nudge things along in a certain direction by manipulating the data. Obviously, there are also cases of manipulation on both sides--I wouldn't dispute that.

In the Age of Enlightenment, Diderot tried to build human knowledge with an objective, scientific mindset, which is where I believe progressive idealism got its start. We are still in that ideology today, even if it has taken on more modern forms.

And although I believe that Science is based upon empirically-provable realities, political philosophy is not easily based on "scientific experiments." The idealism of giving greater voice to the masses in the French Revolution resulted in Napoleon's dictatorship. By contrast, giving more liberty to more people in America resulted in less violence, unless you wish to include the Civil War. The revolutions of Communism has resulted in a massive number of deaths of the very people who were promised representation.

[Athanasius]

I really have the conviction that more conservative viewpoints tend towards a greater objectivity, whereas by definition progressives wish to nudge things along in a certain direction by manipulating the data. Obviously, there are also cases of manipulation on both sides--I wouldn't dispute that.

In the Age of Enlightenment, Diderot tried to build human knowledge with an objective, scientific mindset, which is where I believe progressive idealism got its start. We are still in that ideology today, even if it has taken on more modern forms.

And although I believe that Science is based upon empirically-provable realities, political philosophy is not easily based on "scientific experiments." The idealism of giving greater voice to the masses in the French Revolution resulted in Napoleon's dictatorship. By contrast, giving more liberty to more people in America resulted in less violence, unless you wish to include the Civil War. The revolutions of Communism has resulted in a massive number of deaths of the very people who were promised representation.

We've found some ideology. You a lefty?

[RandyPNW]

I really have the conviction that more conservative viewpoints tend towards a greater objectivity, whereas by definition progressives wish to nudge things along in a certain direction by manipulating the data. Obviously, there are also cases of manipulation on both sides--I wouldn't dispute that.

In the Age of Enlightenment, Diderot tried to build human knowledge with an objective, scientific mindset, which is where I believe progressive idealism got its start. We are still in that ideology today, even if it has taken on more modern forms.

And although I believe that Science is based upon empirically-provable realities, political philosophy is not easily based on "scientific experiments." The idealism of giving greater voice to the masses in the French Revolution resulted in Napoleon's dictatorship. By contrast, giving more liberty to more people in America resulted in less violence, unless you wish to include the Civil War. The revolutions of Communism has resulted in a massive number of deaths of the very people who were promised representation.

We've found some ideology. You a lefty?

No, a conservative.

[Fenris]

I really have the conviction that more conservative viewpoints tend towards a greater objectivity, whereas by definition progressives wish to nudge things along in a certain direction by manipulating the data.

I used to think that too. Unfortunately the last few years have been an eye opener. The right has just as many crazies and loons and liars as the left does. Nobody wants to be objective anymore. It's all about being right and whatever lies one must tell- whether to themselves or to someone else- in order to prove their correctness.