Biden’s Afghanistan Blunder

[Fenris]

Also Trump is the one who negotiated the deal with the Taliban. Biden inherited this mess.

Biden didn't keep Trump's timetable anyway. In any case this has been a fiasco, and blaming it on the last president shows neither leadership nor responsibility. Let's face it, Joe Biden hasn't held an executive position in his entire life. President of the United States is a big job, and he isn't up for it.

[RabbiKnife]

Further, the "Trump Timeline" had clear deliverables and checks and balances.  It was a conditional timeline based on the Taliban not taking over territory outside of the areas that it controlled at the time, including, but not limited to, a limitation on the Taliban working in the regional capitals and in particular in Kabul.  It also had guidelines for removal of ALL US citizens and Afghani interpreters and their families, ALL US military equipment, THEN the Embassy Staff and Ambassador and THEN the military.  The Trump plan was "Dear Taliban:  You screw this up and we bomb you even further back into the stone age."

Biden just said  "Get all the military out so I look good to my progressive sycophants, and ooh, is it vanilla, chocolate, or tapioca this afternoon," leaving the citizens, the equipment, the Afghani allies, and the embassy staff on their own without any support.

Facts are irritating things.

[Athanasius]

Yeah. Biden inherited a withdrawal agreement, and from it, he created a mess -- for America, America's allies, and the Afghan people. This is horrific for Afghan women, girls, and boys. Bravo, Biden. What was it Biden committed himself to?

https://joebiden.com/womens-agenda/

End violence against women. Biden will work to end violence against women, continuing his leadership on this issue since he authored the Violence Against Women Act in 1994.

Protect and empower women around the world.

Well gee, the Taliban are exactly in line with these goals.

[Fenris]

Biden just said  "Get all the military out so I look good to my progressive sycophants, and ooh, is it vanilla, chocolate, or tapioca this afternoon," leaving the citizens, the equipment, the Afghani allies, and the embassy staff on their own without any support.

We have the most powerful military in the world, and our spineless president is bowing before 12th century thugs. We're better than this.

[RabbiKnife]

My 0-6 (already picked up by the board so 0-6 promotable, waiting on Senate confirmation) brother is at US Army War College right now, and all the 0-5s and 0-6s in his class are losing their minds.

He says that the instructors literally have no words to discuss, as criticism of the current chain of command including the CIC during ongoing operations ist verboten.

[Fenris]

He says that the instructors literally have no words to discuss, as criticism of the current chain of command including the CIC during ongoing operations ist verboten.

What could one even say? This is pathetic.

[Slug1]

American special operation veterans rescue 630 Afghan allies in Operation ‘Pineapple Express’

Seconds before the devastating bomb blast at the Kabul airport Thursday, about 500 Afghans – members of Afghan elite forces, special operators, assets and enablers along with their families – were rescued by an all-volunteer group of American veterans of Afghan War in an operation named ‘Pineapple Express’.

According to news reports with the increasing Taliban presence and violence in Afghanistan American veterans launched a ‘final daring’ mission Wednesday to rescue the allies who had worked with them in the past.

The whole article...

https://theprint.in/world/american-special-operation-veterans-rescue-630-afghan-allies-in-operation-pineapple-express/723792/

[RabbiKnife]

My little bro is at War College right now.

Three of the folks in his class are current Delta/SF officers that just returned prior to 01 August from Afghanistan.

They have direct contact with the Pineapple Express operatives and many Afghanis in real time and reporting as more extractions occur.

630 is only a drop in the bucket as to what the Pineapple guys are actually accomplishing.

Great news all the way around.

[Slug1]

My little bro is at War College right now.

Three of the folks in his class are current Delta/SF officers that just returned prior to 01 August from Afghanistan.

They have direct contact with the Pineapple Express operatives and many Afghanis in real time and reporting as more extractions occur.

630 is only a drop in the bucket as to what the Pineapple guys are actually accomplishing.

Great news all the way around.

There are always the "unsung" heroes in our midst!!

[Fenris]

Well, the US military is out. Unfortunately, somewhere between several hundred and several thousands American citizens are still trapped in Afghanistan. Add to that many thousands of green card holders. Oh and the Taliban have somewhere between $65 billion and $85 billion worth of the very finest American military equipment.

Biden held a press conference today and called the whole situation a "success." He took no questions and left the podium.

[RandyPNW]

Biden is going to call his complete disaster a "success" as long as the Democrat Party and the American Media back him up. People really are sheep, unless they have a brain in their head--I hate to be so cynical, but look at how gullible people are, really!

To be honest, not everybody is into politics, history, and current events. So I don't completely blame people for following the pied piper. College students really haven't developed their brains to the degree they think for themselves. The 1st issue they discover and they're on the bandwagon.

But God is on the throne, and the truth will come out. Trouble is, the truth may be that people like Biden and his socialist agenda. It is an elitism that promises the people that all their needs and wants will be met, if they just trust the political leadership.

Once people have given up their power, they will have no more power. There will be a political class in cahoots with the media and in cahoots with the very wealthy. The rest of us who have anything will have what we have given to those who don't, whether they're irresponsible or not. There will be only two classes--the elite and the serf class. Kind of like Communism.

[RabbiKnife]

Actually, there are two classes of people in this country.

Gun owners and targets.

I pray it never comes to that, but if there is a choice between my family's safety from imminent threat of bodily harm and your perceived need, well... sorry.

I may give to you... that is my choice.
You will not take from me... that is your choice.

[Athanasius]

Actually, there are two classes of people in this country.

Gun owners and targets.

I pray it never comes to that, but if there is a choice between my family's safety from imminent threat of bodily harm and your perceived need, well... sorry.

I may give to you... that is my choice.
You will not take from me... that is your choice.

Incidentally, this principle is amply demonstrated in games like DayZ (Zombie survival open world). Sure, you can go around minding your own business, but when you encounter someone else what's the likelihood that they're going to shoot first, because they can't trust that you won't shoot first? More or less 100%. In that kind of circumstance, you run or hide if you aren't armed, or shoot first/shoot back if you are. These types of games are excellent psychological exercises: trust will get you killed.

Let's hope it never comes to that in reality.

[Fenris]

DayZ

I don't play DayZ, but I am a gamer and approve of gaming references!

[RabbiKnife]

DayZ

I don't play DayZ, but I am a gamer and approve of gaming references!

Just remember. 

In real life, you don't get additional lives, ammo runs out much quicker, and adrenaline will only take you so far.
But then, if you've used up all the ammo you can carry and are still standing, you are likely to be able to find plenty of free ammo lying around on the ground...