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The concept of the “intermediary" for man is clearly in the Bible, and we also see who He is.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

There will come a point when He will finish His work as intercessor and come down at the Second Coming.
Romans 9:28
For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

At this point probation will clearly close for those on earth, the opportunity to repent and accept salvation is no longer available, and one’s eternal fate is sealed. We can see it in the Parable of the Ten Virgins

Matthew 25:1-12
1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

In this parable of the ten virgins we see the foolish virgins closed their probation by neglecting or refusing to make the choice to have the oil of the Holy Spirit during the time there was an opportunity to get more, and when the bridegroom showed up and they tried to enter the wedding banquet they were denied entrance because their probation had closed.

Now probation will close a short time before Christ comes as the judgement of the house of God ends when Christ finishes His work as intermediary and stands up to go to earth in the Second Coming. At this point probations is closed and we see who made the choice whether living or waiting for Christ in the grave who are sealed and Gods people in Ephesians 4:30.
Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.   

And in we see also what it says in Revelation 7:3
Revelation 7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

God’s people receive the seal of God or have it if they are in the grave, while those who reject God receive the Mark of the Beast. We see the events of Revelation 16, where the seven last plagues are poured out on those who receive the Mark of the Beast. We clearly see it in the second verse.
Revelation 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

This says that the first plague was poured out “on the people who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.” Then we see where Revelation 16:5-9 inform us that these people have been judged worthy of receiving these plagues because they refused to repent. This suggests that their probation has closed and they have chosen the adversary rather than Christ.

Then the events right before His coming in the final verses.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
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Where do you get these terms?

I assume you are pretrib premil

What is your opinion of people who disagree with your eschatological

For instance, if pre trib premil is not accurate, then your entire premise in this post fails, correct?
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

Athanasius

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Are we tired of the Adventist apologetic?
Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

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Are we tired of the Adventist apologetic?
I wouldn't say "tired", but it's annoying that he leaves questions unanswered and runs off to start new discussion topics that will also be full of questions unanswered.

Edit to add, I said this about him in another discussion:

F: How do you keep the Sabbath?

RD: Hems and haws repeatedly, dragging things on for several weeks.

F: How do you keep the Sabbath?

RD: The way they kept it in the bible!

F: How did they keep the Sabbath in the bible?

RD: Silence.

I expect some hemming and hawing from RD in the future, followed by silence, maybe another cryptic bible verse, followed by yet more silence. Then he'll start a new discussion about the Sabbath, again completely devoid of any information
« Last Edit: July 29, 2026, 11:53:09 AM by Fenris »
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That doesn't sound edifying or fruitful
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That doesn't sound edifying or fruitful

At least fruit is vegetarian.
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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That doesn't sound edifying or fruitful
Does it count as exercise? Like running laps in the gym? There's definitely something circular about it.
Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

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That doesn't sound edifying or fruitful
Does it count as exercise? Like running laps in the gym? There's definitely something circular about it.

Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

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Macho Man in the Houuuuusssseeeee!!!!


I actually got to see him live against Pistol Pez Whatley in a match in our little tiny rural high school gym back in 1980

He was probably less than 20 years old

Ha!  We were throwing chains and ropes and chairs and everything we could slide under the ropes into the ring!

Good times!!!
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

Athanasius

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Macho Man in the Houuuuusssseeeee!!!!


I actually got to see him live against Pistol Pez Whatley in a match in our little tiny rural high school gym back in 1980

He was probably less than 20 years old

Ha!  We were throwing chains and ropes and chairs and everything we could slide under the ropes into the ring!

Good times!!!

That must have been something else!
Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

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It was awesome

Big guys and they were hitting pretty hard

Sure it’s fake but a tremendous amount of athleticism
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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Surprised Adventism, coming out of the infamous Milllerites, managed to survive, but guess I shouldn't be.
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It was awesome

Big guys and they were hitting pretty hard

Sure it’s fake but a tremendous amount of athleticism

How does it go? Just because it's fake doesn't mean it's not real?
Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

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There will come a point when He will finish His work as intercessor and come down at the Second Coming.
Romans 9:28
For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

At this point probation will clearly close for those on earth, the opportunity to repent and accept salvation is no longer available
So I've taken the time to carefully read over the chapter of Romans 9, and the chapter of Isaiah 10, which is what this verse is actually quoting. And neither of those chapters appear to support your contention that the opportunity to repent ever goes away. (That the verse in Isaiah 10 seems to be talking about the destruction of other nations and not Israel is a separate matter entirely. )
Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

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In fact, and this could be a topic all on it's own, I think the fixation on the Jewish "remnant" as being some fraction of the Jews alive in the world at any given time is way overblown. The Jewish people alive today are the remnant: Having survived the Assyrian invasion, the Babylonian exile, the Greek attempt to stamp out Judaism, the Roman invasion and subsequent exile, the Crusades, the Inquisition, being forcibly expelled from dozens of countries, the Khmelnytsky Uprising (that most people have never even heard of), the crushing subjugation of living in Muslim countries (that is now being reinvented as some kind of "Golden Age"), the Pale of Settlement, the Holocaust, the invasion of the fledgling state of Israel by the entire Arab world, and on and on and on...

In Zechariah 3, the high priest Joshua is referred to as "a brand plucked from the flames." A rabbi who survived the inferno that was the Holocaust referred to all Jews like himself as "a brand plucked from the flames." My own grandfather escaped Poland less than a week before the Nazi invasion, guided by a startling level of insight (or was it a prophecy?) and my father was born in a Siberian labor camp.

Any time you see a Jewish person, you're looking the "remnant".
Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

 

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