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RabbiKnife

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Sayeth Prophet Phenris, Professor of Early Church History and New Testament Apologetics who understands better than many professing Christian…
I appreciate the compliment, but don't tell my rabbi about it.   :o

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Yes, but if we are not using 'sola scriptura' and just philosophy or 'oh vey', is that 'edifying' or 'contextual'.
I know that 'sola scriptura' is a concept, but simply reading the text cannot be sufficient. One has to apply logic and mental tools to make full sense of what the text is telling us. It was Luther's genius that he was willing to do this separate from the corruption of the Catholic church.

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And dont you all hold that to that Gods Word is truth that brings us to what He desires.
No. God's word is there to give us a choice. Deuteronomy 30:

Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach.  It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?”  Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.

 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. For I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.

 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them,  I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live  and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Some are self evident, and others can be seen by the accompanying text which give context, and others put side by side give clear understanding. But when you put preconceived ideas and ignore the text, you can see the problem. We can go text by text as you like or those which clearly belong together, whichever mode you like and go from there, and see what we find, if that is satisfactory..
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But when you put preconceived ideas and ignore the text, you can see the problem. We can go text by text as you like or those which clearly belong together, whichever mode you like and go from there, and see what we find, if that is satisfactory..
Who has ignored the text? Has anyone here ignored the text?
Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

RabbiKnife

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But when you put preconceived ideas and ignore the text, you can see the problem. We can go text by text as you like or those which clearly belong together, whichever mode you like and go from there, and see what we find, if that is satisfactory..
Who has ignored the text? Has anyone here ignored the text?

By “ignore the text,” he means “fail to agree with his SDA indictrinational screed.”
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2026, 12:45:52 AM »
So. Per the OP,  If one is following a false prophet and holding to legalism and making Jesus the Archangel Michael, edification is not the issue.


To claim affinity with the Bible that one does not know how to read and understand is to twist the truth.


Very few believers consider the SDA to be in the realm of orthodoxy.


Be advised!
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Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2026, 09:12:49 AM »
If anyone here has ignored the text...

Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

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Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2026, 12:06:15 PM »
Romans 14:19
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19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
Malachi 2: "Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? "

Psalm 34: Who is the man who delights in life, who desires to see good days? Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from deceitful speech. Turn away from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.

Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

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Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2026, 11:48:36 PM »
The cited "Text" is a diversion from the doctrinal statements of previous threads and does not address them..


Now ignoring. Back to travels.
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But when you put preconceived ideas and ignore the text, you can see the problem. We can go text by text as you like or those which clearly belong together, whichever mode you like and go from there, and see what we find, if that is satisfactory..
Who has ignored the text? Has anyone here ignored the text?
Well lets start with 1 Peter 4:17 and see if we are allowed to see what the text tells us.

RabbiKnife

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Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2026, 08:57:13 AM »
To whom was Peter’s epistle written and from the text of the epistle, why?
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

 

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