Its clear in the Bible, you do not go to Heaven or to Hell, when you die.

[NeutralZone]

According to the Bible, those who die in Jesus immediately go to paradise where God is.  "To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord."  Jesus told the thief on the cross, "this day you will be with me in paradise."

Those who are not forgiven go to Hades, where they await God's judgment. Hades is located within the bowls of the earth and is where Jesus went for three days after he was crucified, where he rebuked the demons who are there.

Scripture please.  Where in the Judeo-Christian Bible does it say Jesus (who scripture says was dead) was still alive and kicking?  So much so that he was supposedly rebuking demons.

[George]

I am new here, but I would like to add a comment about the thief. He didn’t even ask Jesus to take him with him. He only asked HIM to remember him. He didn’t expect to go with Him, only that HE remember him. BTW: That is a bit of a problem for the churches that continue to add rules and expect us to keep them. The thief apparently did none of that!
George

[The Parson]

I am new here, but I would like to add a comment about the thief. He didn’t even ask Jesus to take him with him. He only asked HIM to remember him. He didn’t expect to go with Him, only that HE remember him. BTW: That is a bit of a problem for the churches that continue to add rules and expect us to keep them. The thief apparently did none of that!
George

You should be able to post now George. Let us know.

[Athanasius]

I am new here, but I would like to add a comment about the thief. He didn’t even ask Jesus to take him with him. He only asked HIM to remember him. He didn’t expect to go with Him, only that HE remember him. BTW: That is a bit of a problem for the churches that continue to add rules and expect us to keep them. The thief apparently did none of that!
George

What do you mean the thief did none of what?

[RabbiKnife]

Here's my favorite explanation of the thief.

And that's all I have to say, about that.

2nd or 3rd video down (either one):

Edit: Your link was breaking the horizontal scroll. Here are the 2nd and 3rd videos:

[Athanasius]

I gotchu.

[RabbiKnife]

Gracias amigo.

[Fenris]

That second video is very interesting. Even though we share some biblical canon, what this pastor(?) is describing is as far from Judaism as one can be.

[RabbiKnife]

Oh there is no doubt that the NT expounding of grace is not found in any other theological system, including Judaism.

Sadly, it is also not found within the practice e or thought of many professing Christians.

[Fenris]

Oh there is no doubt that the NT expounding of grace is not found in any other theological system, including Judaism.

Judaism has the concept of grace. It's the need for "salvation" that's not present. Although in the prayer we say after eating a meal, we beseech God to give us the merit to see the coming of the messiah, and life in the World to Come.

Sadly, it is also not found within the practice e or thought of many professing Christians.

Catholics and Orthodox? Because they believe some strange things.

[RabbiKnife]

Interesting

Grace without the need for salvation is somewhat strange to me, sort of like the idea of umbrellas pre-Noah!!!!

Yes, both Orthodox and Roman Catholic theology holds to some strange ideas that to me are extra biblical

I was thinking in my posts of many evangelical Christians who hold to strange practical theologies in which they believe that their salvation is either obtained or maintained by their own works of righteous deeds

[Fenris]

Interesting

Grace without the need for salvation is somewhat strange to me, sort of like the idea of umbrellas pre-Noah!!!!

The idea of "salvation from hell" or even "redemption via works" are not Jewish ideas. Jews follow Biblical law because it's part of our covenant with God, not because we're going to get some reward for doing so.

[RabbiKnife]

Interesting

Grace without the need for salvation is somewhat strange to me, sort of like the idea of umbrellas pre-Noah!!!!

The idea of "salvation from hell" or even "redemption via works" are not Jewish ideas. Jews follow Biblical law because it's part of our covenant with God, not because we're going to get some reward for doing so.

Understood

If only if I could get Christian’s to understand “good works because of relationship with God” as opposed to “good works in order to obtain a relationship with God” I’d be waaaaay down the road

[Fenris]

If only if I could get Christian’s to understand “good works because of relationship with God” as opposed to “good works in order to obtain a relationship with God” I’d be waaaaay down the road

You do set a good example. It's up to other people whether to follow it or not.  That's all Judaism is, a moral pilot project for the rest of the world to adopt. That so few want to follow the bible's values is just sad.

[Fenris]

“good works because of relationship with God” as opposed to “good works in order to obtain a relationship with God”

I love this story because it is not only to your point, but also describes the strange paradox of who Jews are.

Edited for clarity

During the closing days of Israel's 1982 "Peace in Galilee" campaign in Lebanon, I was one of a group of ten Chabad Chassidim who got permission from the army to enter Beirut to cheer up the soldiers.

The soldiers welcomed us as though we were announcing the end of the war. The entire night we went from group to group, singing, dancing, talking, laughing, and of course making L'Chaims over vodka.

There was no time to sleep. At the crack of dawn we got our tefillin (phylacteries) out of our bags and began asking soldiers if they wanted to do a mitzvah and put them on for a minute.

At that hour of the morning most of the soldiers were still asleep. I walked around looking for "customers" and happened upon a line of about ten open jeeps with two soldiers seated in each. Their motors were running and they were waiting in the chilly morning to go out on a mission. It must have been some sort of combat foray, because they were armed to the teeth and were wearing bulky bulletproof vests and steel helmets.

I approached the first jeep and asked them if they wanted to put on tefillin and one soldier agreed. When he finished, I moved on to the next one and asked the driver the same question, but was in for an unpleasant surprise.

He just listened, looking straight ahead, and didn't even react to my question. So I just stood there and waited for a reply. After a few seconds of silence, he turned to me and said (loose translation): "Get out of my sight, you parasite religious scum! If you don't get out of my face I'll tear you to pieces! I hate you vermin!"

I understood that the answer was no. I tried to force a smile and figure out something to say, when suddenly the driver of the next jeep in line called out to me in a desperate tone of voice: "Rabbi, Rabbi! Come here. I want to put on tefillin." I turned, happy to get away, and began to walk toward the third jeep in the line. "Tell me Rabbi," he called nervously after I had taken a few steps and was still quite a distance from him. "If... if I put on tefillin will G‑d protect me?"

It was obvious that the man was very worried. Yesterday he was probably sitting in his hardware store selling pipes and tools when they called him up to reserve duty, and suddenly here he was about to enter the front lines.

"Listen, my friend," I assured him, "G‑d will protect you whether you put on the tefillin or not. Don't worry. He loves you because you are a Jew. But if G‑d protects you for free, so why not do something for Him for free, and put on tefillin?"

It seems that the soldier in the second jeep — the one that had cursed me out — had heard all this, because when I finished putting on the tefillin on this soldier he called out, "Hey Rabbi! Come over here!"

I turned around to see him rolling up his sleeve like he wanted to put on the tefillin and motioning me to come over.

I took a few steps towards him. "What do you want? What happened?"

"Listen!" he replied "What do you care? I want to put on the tefillin, too."

I gave him a look and an Israeli hand motion as if to say, "Are you for real?" And he replied:

"Listen, my friend. To put on tefillin in order to go to heaven or to be religious, that's not for me. But to put on tefillin for no reason... That I'm willing to do!"

This is the essence of the Jewish soul in action. A Jew may reject all reasons, all explanations, including mystical explanations, for doing a mitzvah, but will embrace the deed itself.