The end of NATO ?

[Athanasius]

Why the attitude? I'm explaining my thought process, just as you are.

You're defending Donald as the best leader of any Western country by far, and this is a leader who (1) threatened to annex my country, and who has (2) targeted minorities such as myself, and who has (3) enabled the targeting of minotiries such as myself, and who (4) is quite fine to "mock" people such as myself, or even people like Joe Biden.

So, if the claim is that Donald is "the best leader of any Western country by far", I guess, deal with it.

European governments encouraging the entry of millions of racist, anti semitic seventh century barbarians who are opposed to their way of life and want to implement sharia law is not in any way "good" for the people who live in those countries.

Name names, we can talk stats.

Maduro isn't worth defending. He ignored his electoral loss, emptied his prisons and insane asylums and sent those people to the US, and oppresses his own people. I work in immigration law and have heard the stories from people who escaped, and it isn't pretty.

No one is defending Maduro.

Venezuela is under sanctions from most of the world. The money from oil sales has been placed in a Qatari bank to keep it out of the hands of western creditors, so that it can be sent directly to the Venezuelan people. You may agree or disagree with this, but it has a perfectly reasonable explanation.

That Qatari 747 is the reasonable explanation.

[Fenris]

You're defending Donald as the best leader of any Western country by far, and this is a leader who (1) threatened to annex my country,

Just tune him out. Everyone else is. He's not annexing anything.

and who has (2) targeted minorities such as myself,

In what way has he "targeted" you?

and who has (3) enabled the targeting of minorities such as myself,

In what way has he "enabled the targeting of minorities such as yourself"?

and who (4) is quite fine to "mock" people such as myself, or even people like Joe Biden.

Yeah, he's got a serious case of the rudes. Like I said, tune him out.

So, if the claim is that Donald is "the best leader of any Western country by far", I guess, deal with it.

Would I take him over the prime ministers who have recognized a terrorist state and refuse to protect their Jews? Who refuse to protect their own native populations?  Yup.

Name names, we can talk stats.

Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Spain... the list goes on and on.

No one is defending Maduro.

Uhhh yeah, you are. "How dare US forces arrest an authoritarian leader who ignored the results of an election and has a federal indictment in US court for narco terrorism".

That Qatari 747 is the reasonable explanation.

That could explain why it's a Qatari bank specifically, but I get not keeping it in a western bank for the reasons above.

[Athanasius]

Just tune him out. Everyone else is. He's not annexing anything.

Tune out the best leader of any Western nation? I don't think so.

In what way has he "targeted" you?
In what way has he "enabled the targeting of minorities such as yourself"?
Yeah, he's got a serious case of the rudes. Like I said, tune him out.

Tune out the best leader of any Western nation? I don't think so.

Though I'm no athlete.

Would I take him over the prime ministers who have recognized a terrorist state and refuse to protect their Jews? Who refuse to protect their own native populations?  Yup.

Your problem with Mette Frederiksen is...?

Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Spain... the list goes on and on.

I named a name for you above.

Uhhh yeah, you are. "How dare US forces arrest an authoritarian leader who ignored the results of an election and has a federal indictment in US court for narco terrorism".

Sardonically criticising Donald isn't defending Maduro. Like how I'm not saying Donald is the worst Western leader, but that he isn't by far the best.

That could explain why it's a Qatari bank specifically, but I get not keeping it in a western bank for the reasons above.

Donald keeping the money in the US is suddenly going to play international ball? Of course not. No one is buying it.

[Fenris]

Tune out the best leader of any Western nation? I don't think so.

Then that's a choice you make.

You didn't answer my questions.

In what way has he "targeted" you?
In what way has he "enabled the targeting of minorities such as yourself"?

Your problem with Mette Frederiksen is...?

I named a name for you above.

I didn't mention Denmark, who is a bit player on the world stage.

I did mention other countries.

Sardonically criticising Donald isn't defending Maduro.

So you're okay with Maduro's arrest?

Donald keeping the money in the US is suddenly going to play international ball? Of course not. No one is buying it.

Again, this is a choice you make.

[Athanasius]

In what way has he "targeted" you?
In what way has he "enabled the targeting of minorities such as yourself"?

I answered with the video. How about PBS? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-anti-transgender-political-ads-are-dominating-the-airwaves-this-election. I mean there's lots, and Donald's position on the LGBTQ is well known, so why are we dancing around this?

I didn't mention Denmark, who is a bit player on the world stage.

You said Donald was better than every other Western leader, so, what about Mette Frederiksen has you thinking Donald is better?

So you're okay with Maduro's arrest?

As Donald went about it? No.

Again, this is a choice you make.

Okay, we all make choices.

[IMINXTC]

If the MAGA proponants, rightists and swaths of evangelicals would only cease from declaring Trumpism as a "God-directed" movement, reason could be better applied, but it isn't. As pointed out from 2014 onward, the party has suffered gradual, self negating defeat, having started out in full power.


The US now stands in international ignomy.

[ProDeo]

You surely don't seriously believe Trump is looking out for Americans. Honestly?

Compared to what the EU is doing to their citizens? 1000%

Last week the EU made a big trade deal with South American countries.

Yesterday a trade deal with India. No tariffs.

Europe moving away from US.

All because of that man with his big mouth spouting diarrhea over former allies.

How many friends does US has left ?

[RabbiKnife]

The EU has never been a friend

Individual countries in Europe?  Sure.

[Fenris]

Europe moving away from US.

Because they know that when push comes to shove, the US will come bail them out again. Or they hope, anyway.

All because of that man with his big mouth spouting diarrhea over former allies.

If one person talking- not doing anything, mind, but just sharing his stream of consciousness- can end an alliance, then it wasn't much to begin with.

Mind you, aside from my viewpoints as an American, as a Jew I happen to think that many of these European leaders are garbage. They don't protect their own Jews and were all jockeying for position to be the first to recognize a Palestinian terrorist state.  Think about that for a minute. Their reaction to the largest murder of Jews since the Holocaust was to say "You know what? I do believe that the people who raped and pillaged and carried out mass murder need their own state."

How many friends does US has left ?

Life is not a popularity contest.

Israel is hated by most of the world for the unforgiveable crime of existing and defending itself. I don't bemoan Israel's lack of friends either. The opposite, it just shows what a fallen state the world is in.

[Fenris]

The EU has never been a friend

"Nations don't have friends, only interests." Lord Palmerston

[Fenris]

You said Donald was better than every other Western leader, so, what about Mette Frederiksen has you thinking Donald is better?

I mean this is just picking nits. You're going to pick a country with less than 6 million citizens, with no meaningful foreign or domestic policy, as an example? How about the UK or France or Spain or Germany? Major players on the world stage.

[Fenris]

If the MAGA proponants, rightists and swaths of evangelicals would only cease from declaring Trumpism as a "God-directed" movement, reason could be better applied, but it isn't.

I am not a MAGA proponent nor an Evangelical, nor do I believe that Trumpism is a "God directed" movement, except in the general sense that God is involved in shaping all of human history.

And I do apply reason to this situation.

The US now stands in international ignomy.

As I observed above, so does Israel. To me that says more about the world than about the United States or Israel.

[RabbiKnife]

Well said.//. ^^^

[ProDeo]

Europe moving away from US.

Because they know that when push comes to shove, the US will come bail them out again. Or they hope, anyway.

Ha ha, that is true, not because Europe counts on that, but because US can't resist 

All because of that man with his big mouth spouting diarrhea over former allies.

If one person talking- not doing anything, mind, but just sharing his stream of consciousness- can end an alliance, then it wasn't much to begin with.

Mind you, aside from my viewpoints as an American, as a Jew I happen to think that many of these European leaders are garbage. They don't protect their own Jews and were all jockeying for position to be the first to recognize a Palestinian terrorist state.  Think about that for a minute. Their reaction to the largest murder of Jews since the Holocaust was to say "You know what? I do believe that the people who raped and pillaged and carried out mass murder need their own state."

You are overreacting, anti-antisemitism exists and will never go away, thieves exists and people will go on stealing, rapists exists and they will attack women, there will be always pedophiles etc. All of it is from the devil and countries have a duty to prosecute those criminals.

It goes wrong if countries start to support racism, as we have seen in Nazi Germany.

And racism will never go away, Trump calling people from Africa stinking, posting on X a picture of a former president and first lady as apes.

And there we go again, not learned from history.

[Fenris]

You are overreacting, anti-antisemitism exists and will never go away

I don't know what "anti-antisemitism" is. All I know is that Europe has always had a problem with its Jews.


It's not overreacting to make this observation.

All of it is from the devil and countries have a duty to prosecute those criminals.

Nobody is being prosecuted.