GRAND CANYON PROVES THE GENESIS FLOOD

[Cloudwalker]

A friend of mine posted this.  I thought the people here might find it interesting.  Feel free to move it if there is a better location for it.  I'll admit I contemplated putting it in "Controversial".

Cloudwalker


GRAND CANYON PROVES THE GENESIS FLOOD

Geologists from around the world descend upon the Grand Canyon to see the layers of rocks. Only a few places on earth reveal such a sequence of rock layers, and here is what has been discovered.

1. All of the horizontal layers contain marine fossils such as corals and clams. Marine fossils are found on every continent in the world.

2. There is a layer formation that has been found across the United States called the Coconino Sandstone or “the bathtub ring” in other states it’s also referred to as Cedar Hills Sandstone, Duncan Sandstone, and the Glorietta Sandstone.

3. The Tapeats Sandstone, one of the lowest layers of the Grand Canyon, appears to form a single sandstone body that blankets across North America, extending from California on the west northward to Montana, covering much of North Dakota, and across the Midwest to New England. The same formation in southern Israel is called the Nabatean Sandstone of Petra.

4. The Redwall limestone in the Grand Canyon is grey limestone stained red from the iron oxide in the above layer. This same limestone can be found in much of North America, England, and in the Himalaya Mountains.

During the Genesis Flood, there was catastrophic flooding across the earth. These tidal waves and tsunamis killed marine creatures and poured onto the land. Subsequently, tsunamis laid down more layers of fossils containing sediments.

The Flood continued for months. The Grand Canyon reveals the violent worldwide flood that once was; it is a monument to the Genesis Flood.

[Athanasius]

Here is fine for now, but can move it if necessary. I'll get us started on the "might be necessary".

There are a couple of serious challenges with a global flood narrative. Here's one:

If waters covered the tallest mountain (Everest), that puts the floodwaters at ~8.85km high. That elevation would kill everything on the boat within the ~370 days spent on it.

A related one would be to point out how that volume of water would impact the earths orbit, mass, rotation, etc.

A related one would be to point out how much that volume of water actually is, how much would need to fall every day to cover the earth to above Everest, how that would essentially turn earth into an ocean planet (there's nowhere for this much water to go).

And so, things like "The Grand Canyon Proves the Flood" kind of never get off the ground.

[Slug1]

The Flood continued for months. The Grand Canyon reveals the violent worldwide flood that once was; it is a monument to the Genesis Flood.

This is a resource for utilizing the structure of the Grand Canyon to support the flood:

[RabbiKnife]

Why do I need the Grand Canyon?  We walk by faith not by sight.

[Slug1]

Why do I need the Grand Canyon?  We walk by faith not by sight.

Agreed 100%. The points gathered in this video help with a base of refuting scientific evidence, to raise when speaking with those who speak against the flood. Even when those who speak against a "world-wide" flood, are brethren (unfortunately).

[RabbiKnife]

Fighting the wrong fight.

[teddyv]

Why do I need the Grand Canyon?  We walk by faith not by sight.

Agreed 100%. The points gathered in this video help with a base of refuting scientific evidence, to raise when speaking with those who speak against the flood. Even when those who speak against a "world-wide" flood, are brethren (unfortunately).

Unfortunately, I am one of those brethren. Those creationists looking for naturalistic mechanisms to justify their eisegesis of Scripture do not favour to the faith. If you want to accept the Biblical narrative simply as that without trying to melt the earth in the process, I have zero issues with that.

Is Genesis History? is well produced but it's still wrong.

[RabbiKnife]

Our inability to understand is not a proof that the Bible is wrong.

[Sojourner]

Is Genesis History? is well produced but it's still wrong.

Does that include the story of Abraham and his covenant with God? That's part of Genesis. With regard to the Flood, Jesus referenced it as a historical fact--even comparing the circumstances of the event to those of His future coming.

[Slug1]

Fighting the wrong fight.

Why has iron sharpening iron, become a fight... just asking.

[Fenris]

It is nonetheless interesting that flood myths can be found all over the world.

[teddyv]

It is nonetheless interesting that flood myths can be found all over the world.

When most of humanity has lived next to water bodies, floods are an inevitable event.

[ProDeo]

It is nonetheless interesting that flood myths can be found all over the world.

When most of humanity has lived next to water bodies, floods are an inevitable event.

Just for the fun of it, allow me to argue for a global flood.

Gen 2:5 When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground,

Alright, this is still in the Garden, a supernatural place, A&E living in the presence of God, no death. After A&E rebelled they landed on a different kind of Earth, the natural Earth as we know it, a hostile Earth where death rules as a necessity. The assumption is that there still was no rain.

Imagine an asteroid with the size that killed the dinosaurs slammed into one of the oceans, Google AI -

The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was approximately 10 kilometers (6.2 miles) in diameter. This massive impactor, which struck Earth about 66 million years ago near the Yucatán Peninsula, created the Chicxulub crater and triggered a mass extinction event that wiped out 75% of life on the planet.
Details of the Impact Event:

    Size:
    The asteroid was estimated to be around 10 to 15 kilometers wide.

Impact Energy:
The collision released an immense amount of energy, equivalent to billions of nuclear bombs.

Consequences:
The impact caused superheated winds, a massive tsunami, global wildfires, and injected large amounts of dust and gases into the atmosphere, blocking sunlight and disrupting the climate.

Would explain a global flood ?

[Athanasius]

It is nonetheless interesting that flood myths can be found all over the world.

When most of humanity has lived next to water bodies, floods are an inevitable event.

Just for the fun of it, allow me to argue for a global flood.

Gen 2:5 When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground,

Alright, this is still in the Garden, a supernatural place, A&E living in the presence of God, no death. After A&E rebelled they landed on a different kind of Earth, the natural Earth as we know it, a hostile Earth where death rules as a necessity. The assumption is that there still was no rain.

Imagine an asteroid with the size that killed the dinosaurs slammed into one of the oceans, Google AI -

The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was approximately 10 kilometers (6.2 miles) in diameter. This massive impactor, which struck Earth about 66 million years ago near the Yucatán Peninsula, created the Chicxulub crater and triggered a mass extinction event that wiped out 75% of life on the planet.
Details of the Impact Event:

    Size:
    The asteroid was estimated to be around 10 to 15 kilometers wide.

Impact Energy:
The collision released an immense amount of energy, equivalent to billions of nuclear bombs.

Consequences:
The impact caused superheated winds, a massive tsunami, global wildfires, and injected large amounts of dust and gases into the atmosphere, blocking sunlight and disrupting the climate.

Would explain a global flood ?

Not according to the details provided in Genesis.

[Fenris]

When most of humanity has lived next to water bodies, floods are an inevitable event.

That's true, but the universal flood stories have more similarities than just that. They all also feature a god unleashing the flood as a punishment, with a lone survivor who was spared because they were a better person than the others. It is enough to at least give one pause for thought.