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[Jogle93]

Hello everyone. I am a new member here and a young pastor. I have a question for any preachers out there. Before I answered my call to preach I never really pod attention to the many different Bibles there are out there. Once a started preaching I had a few different study/reference Bibles given to me and suggested to me to use. I love them all but am on the hunt for one that I just can’t seem to find.  What is a good Bible any of you all would suggest to use to preach out of and study out of?  Not asking for translations I use only KJV (not trying yo start an argument there).

[Fenris]

I feel that the KJV captures the poetic flow of Hebrew the best. Unfortunately as a translation it is only average; it contains many mistranslations that have never been corrected. For modern purposes I feel that the NIV is very legible and imparts the meaning of text reasonably well (although it introduces its own share of mistranslations).

I have no opinion on the NT and don't know any Greek, classical or modern.

[RabbiKnife]

If the use of the KJV is a matter of preference for the pulpit, that's fine.  The language is both familiar and poetic, and the literary style is very good. 

For preaching, I usually use a variety of translations at the same time, often reading two or three of them for the verse or part of a verse I'm working on.  Even if using the KJV as your primary translation, something like, "In Romans 12, verse 1, Paul says "I beseech you, therefore, brethren, that you..."  Other translations say "blah blah blah blah."   The word "Beseech" in the original greek means "...  ... ..."

The NASB is probably the best from a "literal" translation approach (as opposed to dynamic), but the English is not nearly as poetic or smooth as the KJV or the NKJV.

A lot of folks like the newer ESV, although it isn't my favorite, mostly because I'm used to other versions.

If you are looking for a study bible, well, that depends in part on your particular brand of Christianity.  Pretrib premil love the Ryrie Study Bible.  Others like the Thompson Chain, or the old Scofield.  Some like the Inductive Study Bible.  Personally, I don't particularly care for study bibles, as too often folks treat the notes like they are inspired...

In any event, welcome to our little corner of chaos.  Our friend you just met, Fenris, is a devout Jew and is a wealth of information as to Jewish life, theology, and understanding of Hebrew!

I'm trying to convince him (for almost 20 years now) that there is an exception for bacon in the Talmud, but alas, so far he has not succombed to my evil ways...

 

[Fenris]

  Our friend you just met, Fenris, is a devout Jew and is a wealth of information as to Jewish life, theology, and understanding of Hebrew!

I suppose I should have been clear about that myself. Thank you for clarifying for our new guest here.

so far he has not succombed to my evil ways...

Nothing evil about you. You're a longtime friend and a very wise man. Who happens to enjoy bacon. Which isn't biblically forbidden for you anyway.

It does smell great though.

[Jogle93]

If the use of the KJV is a matter of preference for the pulpit, that's fine.  The language is both familiar and poetic, and the literary style is very good. 

For preaching, I usually use a variety of translations at the same time, often reading two or three of them for the verse or part of a verse I'm working on.  Even if using the KJV as your primary translation, something like, "In Romans 12, verse 1, Paul says "I beseech you, therefore, brethren, that you..."  Other translations say "blah blah blah blah."   The word "Beseech" in the original greek means "...  ... ..."

The NASB is probably the best from a "literal" translation approach (as opposed to dynamic), but the English is not nearly as poetic or smooth as the KJV or the NKJV.

A lot of folks like the newer ESV, although it isn't my favorite, mostly because I'm used to other versions.

If you are looking for a study bible, well, that depends in part on your particular brand of Christianity.  Pretrib premil love the Ryrie Study Bible.  Others like the Thompson Chain, or the old Scofield.  Some like the Inductive Study Bible.  Personally, I don't particularly care for study bibles, as too often folks treat the notes like they are inspired...

In any event, welcome to our little corner of chaos.  Our friend you just met, Fenris, is a devout Jew and is a wealth of information as to Jewish life, theology, and understanding of Hebrew!

I'm trying to convince him (for almost 20 years now) that there is an exception for bacon in the Talmud, but alas, so far he has not succombed to my evil ways...

 
Thank you! I have a scofield and Thompson chain and love them both for different reasons. I’ve just not found a Bible from any particular publisher whether reference or study Bible that I have found to be the best for my studying and use for preaching

[Fenris]

Thank you! I have a scofield and Thompson chain and love them both for different reasons. I’ve just not found a Bible from any particular publisher whether reference or study Bible that I have found to be the best for my studying and use for preaching

Ah. Dispensationalist?

[RabbiKnife]

so far he has not succombed to my evil ways...

Nothing evil about you. You're a longtime friend and a very wise man. Who happens to enjoy bacon. Which isn't biblically forbidden for you anyway.

It does smell great though.
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The photo was a clue....

Been running too hard, old friend.

Bacon?  Part of my lawyerly sneakiness.

I call it P.E.T.S.... "proselytizing evangelism through saltpork."

First the bacon, then, well, you know...   

Fenris, is Mrs. Fenris and the family all well?  Is your son still in Eretz Israel?

How are the rabbinical studies progressing?

[RabbiKnife]

Thank you! I have a scofield and Thompson chain and love them both for different reasons. I’ve just not found a Bible from any particular publisher whether reference or study Bible that I have found to be the best for my studying and use for preaching

Ah. Dispensationalist?

Speaking of dispensationalists, how about that nominated United States Ambassador to Israel?  Wow!

[Fenris]

The photo was a clue....

Who knows? Maybe I'm just a Gene Wilder fan? Or I like unusual westerns?

Been running too hard, old friend.

Bacon?  Part of my lawyerly sneakiness.

I call it P.E.T.S.... "proselytizing evangelism through saltpork."

One can certainly see, and smell, the appeal!

Fenris, is Mrs. Fenris and the family all well?  Is your son still in Eretz Israel?

Everyone is well, thank God. A blessing upon you for asking.

How are you and your loved ones doing?

How are the rabbinical studies progressing?

Slow. Other responsibilities are always calling. I try to learn and grow a little bit every day though.

[Fenris]

Speaking of dispensationalists, how about that nominated United States Ambassador to Israel?  Wow!

An amazing gentleman. The hostility that the present administration has towards Israel will be wiped away, and the closer relations are good for Israel, America, and the world at large.

[RabbiKnife]

All are well here in the home front…

Soon be 92 year old mother in law adjusting well to life with us for over six month, although she does tend to overdo it with the weed eater and blower out in the yard…🤷‍♂️


I feel your pain on the studies…

Some days I feel like Tevya in Fiddler on the Roof…”I’d have the time that I lack to sit in the synagogue and pray and maybe have a seat by the eastern wall… and I’d discuss the holy books with the learned men seven hours every day…and that would be the sweetest thing of all… oy!”

[Fenris]

Soon be 92 year old mother in law adjusting well to life with us for over six month, although she does tend to overdo it with the weed eater and blower out in the yard…🤷‍♂️

I aspire to be spry enough to use a weed eater at age 92.

[RabbiKnife]

Soon be 92 year old mother in law adjusting well to life with us for over six month, although she does tend to overdo it with the weed eater and blower out in the yard…🤷‍♂️

I aspire to be spry enough to use a weed eater at age 92.

I hear you

We have approx 450 feet of curbside e with the street. About 320 feet  of sidewalk (2 sides of course). Call it 300 feet of driveway and parking all in. That’s just edging the grass next to concrete… then around all the flowerbeds and raised garden beds…

I’ve seen her go three+ hours in the summer heat without sitting down or taking a break except to maybe get a drink of water.

Tough tough tough…

 Share your aspirations

[Jogle93]

Thank you! I have a scofield and Thompson chain and love them both for different reasons. I’ve just not found a Bible from any particular publisher whether reference or study Bible that I have found to be the best for my studying and use for preaching

Ah. Dispensationalist?

I was raised in a church that mainly believed in the pre tribulation rapture and physical literal millennium. Where I am from is mostly all Baptist churches ( of which I’m still a part of) and there is that belief and what you could call amillienialists. I can see both arguments as why they believe the way they believe. I enjoy my Thomson chain as it uses scripture for its study helps and not man’s opinion

[Athanasius]

Hello everyone. I am a new member here and a young pastor. I have a question for any preachers out there. Before I answered my call to preach I never really pod attention to the many different Bibles there are out there. Once a started preaching I had a few different study/reference Bibles given to me and suggested to me to use. I love them all but am on the hunt for one that I just can’t seem to find.  What is a good Bible any of you all would suggest to use to preach out of and study out of?  Not asking for translations I use only KJV (not trying yo start an argument there).

I'm afraid if I went up to preach I'd get a bunch of funny looks, so from the perspective of critical study, I'm partial to the Oxford Annotated NRSV. I'll be picking up the 5th revision when it releases next year.

In terms of sticking to the KJV, Thomas Nelson is a decent choice.

In tems of what's best: learning and reading in the original languages.

What is the "one [you] just can't seem to find"?