Falsehoods Of Christian Nationalism?

[Rebecca]

If we could take our eyes off each other and look to Jesus instead, yes we could. Staying within the bounds of Christianity while embracing our differences we could but we are prideful.

We can't even decide on what the core tenets of Christianity is.

Shame isn't it?  Wish i understood the true reason why, all i can think of is we want our beliefs to be the right ONE.

[teddyv]

.

Shame isn't it?  Wish i understood the true reason why, all i can think of is we want our beliefs to be the right ONE.
[/quote]Which is why a Christian theocracy would be a disaster. Who would be the arbiter?

[Fenris]

Which is why a Christian theocracy would be a disaster. Who would be the arbiter?

Ding ding ding we have winner!

Political power wielded for the furtherance of a religion always turns ugly. Just ask the victims of the Inquisition. Or the Crusades.

[Rebecca]

Reading this thread , which is like so many in other forums, We again focus on "us" our differences. Which in turn steps around Jesus' prayer . .in part:
 Joh 17:21  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 
 Joh 17:22  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 
We cant, it will never happen, why bother, 'they' are wrong. They sprinkle,  they drink wine , those people have music instruments in the church!,  osas non osas, are this things the gospel ?
What do you think/believe the Gospel is?
For me John 3:16
Is there more yes, can not the simple gospel be a building block He is the chief corner stone. Not every stone is exactly like the others. Some are foundation, lintel, some for their beauty, some for strength, some for counter tops! Yet together the house is built.
Some christians here dont agree with some of my thoughts/ideas,  but yet they are brothers in Christ.

[Fenris]

Not every stone is exactly like the others. Some are foundation, lintel, some for their beauty, some for strength, some for counter tops! Yet together the house is built.

I don't disagree with this concept. In Judaism we have the same concept. There is a sermon in the Talmud (one of those non binding parts added for spice! From another discussion) which discusses the symbolism of the species we wave on the Sukkot holiday in fulfillment of Lev 23:40 "And ye shall take you on the first day the fruit of goodly trees, branches of palm-trees, and boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook, and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days."

The etrog represents a person who studies Torah and fulfills the mitzvot, the lulav represents one who studies Torah but does not perform mitzvot, the myrtle represents one who fulfills mitzvot but does not study Torah, and the willow represents a Jew who neither studies Torah nor observes mitzvot.

And all these people have a place in Judaism. They are all Jews.

But nobody would suggest that a modern day theocracy should be created to bind all these Jews together. Rather, it is enough that we can all coexist and work together to better the world, each in their own way. Just as Christians can coexist with each other.  Or the way Christians can coexist with Jews.

[Rebecca]

Nothing new about divide and conquer 

[Fenris]

Nothing new about divide and conquer 

Nobody is dividing and nobody is conquering. People are different and believe different things.

[Rebecca]

Disagree nobody is dividing .
Agree People are different and believe different things.

[IMINXTC]

Topic: The establishment of Christian law in or as part of secular government.
A state religion(?)

[Athanasius]

If someone is fine with me being world controller and the head of any theocratic institution then actually, I'm fine with that. I'd be overthrown pretty quickly though.

[RabbiKnife]

If someone is fine with me being world controller and the head of any theocratic institution then actually, I'm fine with that. I'd be overthrown pretty quickly though.

Not as long as you do what I say.

[Redeemed]

Topic: The establishment of Christian law in or as part of secular government.
A state religion(?)

We already have that in England and America for example.

William Blackstone made no secret about the fact that the Bible was used to create and codify laws and then the US constitutional tradition in the colonies and eventually the Constitution in 1787 were biblically based and also, naturally, the American legal system and laws.

Do you mean changing existing laws to be even more biblically based? I'm a bit confused here. What specific countries are we talking about or do you mean in a general sense that isn't geographically based?

Edit to add: Separation of Church and State is Christian/Biblically based. "Render unto Caeser" and all that, yeah?

[Fenris]

If someone is fine with me being world controller and the head of any theocratic institution then actually, I'm fine with that. I'd be overthrown pretty quickly though.

It would be epic even if short-lived.

[Fenris]

Christian law

What is "Christian law"? Or do you mean "biblical law"?

[Rebecca]

.

Shame isn't it?  Wish i understood the true reason why, all i can think of is we want our beliefs to be the right ONE.

Which is why a Christian theocracy would be a disaster. Who would be the arbiter?

People look to people not to Christ . My dream that one day we people could all get along will most likely never be the reality. Christ should be the arbiter. Let the old lady dream   The world reality my great grand children  are growing up in is mostly completely anitchrist. Praise the Lord they are in Christian homes.