Why was Moses not allowed to enter the promised land?

[Fenris]

Where in the New Testament is the source of this claim, where 'the rock' refers to the one Moses struck?

"The NT says the rock was symbolic of the Messiah."

Probably 1 Corinthians 10:4 "for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ" although it was a physical rock that provided water and not a "spiritual" one. And even then it was two instances and not the entire 40 years.

[RabbiKnife]

Warn me before you do that.

 

Hot tea nostrilspewing on the monitor is somewhat painful.

Although the Earl Grey does leave a pleasing after aroma...

[ProDeo]

Where in the New Testament is the source of this claim, where 'the rock' refers to the one Moses struck?

"The NT says the rock was symbolic of the Messiah."

Probably 1 Corinthians 10:4 "for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ" although it was a physical rock that provided water and not a "spiritual" one. And even then it was two instances and not the entire 40 years.

Fenris quoting the NT [!] 

[Fenris]

Fenris quoting the NT [!] 

Hey, I learned a thing or two here. 

I can quote the NT even if I don't consider it holy writ. I at least know what it says.

[RabbiKnife]

Fenris quoting the NT [!] 

Hey, I learned a thing or two here. 

I can quote the NT even if I don't consider it holy writ. I at least know what it says.

Beats most nominal Christians I encounter

[Fenris]

Beats most nominal Christians I encounter

Hey, I understand Christian theology fairly well, thanks to teachers like you, professor M, and others on this site.

[Rebecca]

Understanding Christian theology from the forums ?  Thats like understanding building from the sandbox. 

[RabbiKnife]

That’s not exactly what he said

[Rebecca]

Goodness you are touchy. My implication:  different forms of Christianity on forums are sorta like the zillion grains of sand in the box.

[RabbiKnife]

Goodness you are touchy. My implication:  different forms of Christianity on forums are sorta like the zillion grains of sand in the box.

No, not "touchy"... trying to raise the standard by which Christians communicate with one another and with non-believers.

Fenris referenced only THIS site and his now 15+ years of interaction with several of us old-timers.  You then expressed, with more than a bit of distain and dismissiveness, and with a rather broadbrushed stroke, a poor analogy that has no bearing on Fenris' comment.

It is no wonder that non-Christians do not take our apologetics seriously when we are so poor at it.

[Fenris]

Understanding Christian theology from the forums ?  Thats like understanding building from the sandbox. 

There are certain core principles that every Christian believes, which are fundamentally Christian. Jesus as the son of God. Jesus dying for the sins of mankind. These things I have learned and come to understand. I am also well versed in Christian proof texts from the OT. And I am fairly familiar with the NT, first as a historical document of first century Judea, and secondarily as a document that is somewhat Jewish and also somewhat not.

Do I know the nuances of every particular Christian sect? No. Do you? Also no. Is that important? In the balance, I think not.

[Fenris]

It is no wonder that non-Christians do not take our apologetics seriously when we are so poor at it.

Ahh you guys don't give yourself enough credit. Christianity isn't the world's largest religion for nothing. Your general lack of progress with followers of the Jewish faith notwithstanding.

[RabbiKnife]

We are afraid of getting zapped with the space laser…

[Fenris]

We are afraid of getting zapped with the space laser…

LOL no, it wasn't for lack of trying. 

[RabbiKnife]

OK, buster, you asked for it