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Re: A prophet like unto Moses
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2023, 01:18:59 PM »
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This is an interesting observation. In your beliefs, does this mean that Judaism is idolatry?
I believe according to the Christian Scriptures, which i quoted above. So yes.

I understand Ishmael is not the son of promise Isaac is/was .

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That is very kind of you to say! Stick around here and practice and I'm sure you will impress us with your writing skills in no time.
Not a chance 76 is to old to learn that much.

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So this is clearly not Jewish. There is no concept in Judaism of God having a son, or that has any obligation to "believe" in this son.
exactly  one of the differences between the Old and New Testaments

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« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2023, 01:24:46 PM »
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This is an interesting observation. In your beliefs, does this mean that Judaism is idolatry?
I believe according to the Christian Scriptures, which i quoted above. So yes.

You're the first Christian to have told me this. How fascinating.


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Not a chance 76 is to old to learn that much.
Bah, it's just a number! You'll learn stuff every day, especially around here.

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exactly  one of the differences between the Old and New Testaments
Again, it's interesting that you see them as "different". Most Christians would say that the NT adds on to, and is the logical successor of, the OT. I see it as you do, as distinct and different from my bible.
Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

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« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2023, 01:25:53 PM »
A million years ago about 1957  Some how there was a model of Moses Tabernacle in the church,( dad was pastor) it was to scale the colors were correct but the fabrics and building materials  were not. It was cut back so one could see all the areas .It was fascinating . Thinking of it always brings to mind Joshua and Caleb bringing  in the good report.

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« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2023, 01:30:35 PM »
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Again, it's interesting that you see them as "different". Most Christians would say that the NT adds on to, and is the logical successor of, the OT. I see it as you do, as distinct and different from my bible.
This is where my lack of  writing ability shows up. California public school education. I said one  of the differences, not meaning to imply they are totally different.  They complement each other very much. I believe the whole old and new to be the Word of God .
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Re: A prophet like unto Moses
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2023, 01:36:57 PM »
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Again, it's interesting that you see them as "different". Most Christians would say that the NT adds on to, and is the logical successor of, the OT. I see it as you do, as distinct and different from my bible.[/quote]

To carry this a bit deeper i believe to understand the New one needs the Old and vise versa.
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Re: A prophet like unto Moses
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2023, 01:37:51 PM »
They complement each other very much. I believe the whole old and new to be the Word of God .
I see. Of course, you have to believe that. You are a Christian.
Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

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Re: A prophet like unto Moses
« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2023, 01:50:03 PM »
I believe according to the Christian Scriptures, which i quoted above. So yes.

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You're the first Christian to have told me this. How fascinating.   
My guess would be most Christians you have come across are Dispensationalist Furturest


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« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2023, 02:01:10 PM »
My guess would be most Christians you have come across are Dispensationalist Furturest
Most of the Christians I have corresponded with online are here. So you'll have to ask them.
Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

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« Reply #68 on: August 10, 2023, 05:31:21 AM »
Dispensationalist Futurist? Haha no. Not me anyway.
Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.

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Re: A prophet like unto Moses
« Reply #69 on: August 10, 2023, 06:59:37 AM »
Dispensationalist Futurist? Haha no. Not me anyway.

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Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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« Reply #70 on: August 10, 2023, 11:29:17 AM »
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This is in chapter 43.  ;)
I'm a senior citizen, so I'm entitled to mess up now and then.  ;D

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Angels also worship and give praise. Why does God need us?
I would counter that if angels, who are superior in power and estate to humans, praise Him, why would we not do so as well? Besides, if angels lack free will as you believe, that would make their praise compulsory, and I think the Lord would take pleasure in praise and worship from creatures that offer it of their own volition. Finally, numerous passages in scripture encourage praise for God, such as these:

Yet you are holy, enthroned on the praises of Israel. (Psalms 22:3)

My mouth will declare the praise of the LORD; let every creature bless His holy name forever and ever. Psalms 145:21)

Let everything that has breath praise the LORD! Hallelujah! (Psalms 150:6)

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And I do! Our purpose is to express our free will, and hopefully make the right choices, and so earn the right to bask in the divine presence.
Well, I believe we have a higher purpose than simply expressing our free will. And I can't imagine basking in God's glorious presence without the burning need to praise Him. 
Standing before the Judgment Throne we will retain only two things from this life: what God gave us, and what we accomplished with it.

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Re: A prophet like unto Moses
« Reply #71 on: August 10, 2023, 11:56:22 AM »
I'm a senior citizen, so I'm entitled to mess up now and then.  ;D
No worries, I assumed it was a typo.

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I would counter that if angels, who are superior in power and estate to humans, praise Him, why would we not do so as well? Besides, if angels lack free will as you believe, that would make their praise compulsory, and I think the Lord would take pleasure in praise and worship from creatures that offer it of their own volition.
I don't disagree. God desires us to exercise our free will, and make the right choices.

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Finally, numerous passages in scripture encourage praise for God, such as these:
Again, no disagreement. But it doesn't necessarily follow that God needs our praise.

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Well, I believe we have a higher purpose than simply expressing our free will.
Well, on this we must agree to differ.
Return to us, O Lord, that we may return to You. Renew our days as of old. -Lamentations 5:21

 

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