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Re: Current (Non-Sectarian) Political Rumblings.
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2022, 05:33:13 AM »
We're in a period in the church in the West where generations have been seriously let down by the failure of those who came before to teach them properly. There's been too much emphasis on moral majorities and Schaefferian-esque dancing with political figures.

Very sad but so true. Many would gasp at the notion that these movements and popular trends helped to divert the Church (millions of believers, at any rate) away from it's original purpose.

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How do you spread the Gospel? Don't worry about that, the culture war needs to be won through political activism.

Zactly!
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Re: Current (Non-Sectarian) Political Rumblings.
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2022, 09:55:45 AM »
Help me out to understand this thread, are these speculations based on the (growing?) division that is taking place in your country?

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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2022, 10:04:28 AM »
Help me out to understand this thread, are these speculations based on the (growing?) division that is taking place in your country?

Yeah, that and the collective political statements of so many believers. Believers and churches seem to be the driving force behind so much of the growing social division.
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2022, 10:09:40 AM »
Help me out to understand this thread, are these speculations based on the (growing?) division that is taking place in your country?

Yeah, that and the collective political statements of so many believers. Believers and churches seem to be the driving force behind so much of the social division.

I am saying it for years, tear down social media, it's the fuel for division, people are not ready for it.

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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2022, 10:17:18 AM »
Help me out to understand this thread, are these speculations based on the (growing?) division that is taking place in your country?

Yeah, that and the collective political statements of so many believers. Believers and churches seem to be the driving force behind so much of the social division.


I am saying it for years, tear down social media, it's the fuel for division, people are not ready for it.

Lot of truth in that, no doubt. An alternative might be to educate the public. Good luck on that one,
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2022, 11:11:52 AM »
I would settle for educating the Church.
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Re: Current (Non-Sectarian) Political Rumblings.
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2022, 11:45:16 AM »
Help me out to understand this thread, are these speculations based on the (growing?) division that is taking place in your country?

Canada and the US are becoming increasingly socially divided. In Canada, many parts of the church became conspiratorial about COVID and vaccines, lockdowns, etc. Even otherwise sensible figures within the church have taken to the most obscene views.

Social media is a primary driver of that division as now everyone can live isolated little lives inside algorithmic bubbles. This is symptomatic, though, and a more fundamental issue is the loss of truth in areas like the news and reporting, which has been replaced with agenda. There's always been agenda, it's just that we're now in a time when the 'news' serves its masters. People need to think critically about these things, but most people aren't in a position to do that, or won't. And so, the right hates women, and the left is woke.
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2022, 02:55:00 PM »
Where I live, it seems like a lost cause. Folks have already made up their minds: conspiritorial and based on nothing but dark imaginations. Paranoia and hate driven by stereotype and egged on by established preachers.
It's hard to even know where to start.
The aggression is passive but palpable.

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Re: Current (Non-Sectarian) Political Rumblings.
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2022, 03:17:16 PM »
Where I live, it seems like a lost cause. Folks have already made up their minds: conspiritorial and based on nothing but dark imaginations. Paranoia and hate driven by stereotype and egged on by established preachers.
It's hard to even know where to start.
The aggression is passive but palpable.

I've made up my mind...now don't confuse me with the facts...

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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2022, 10:53:08 AM »
It's been heartening, of late, to hear several preachers boldly teach the differences between the great commission and these recent trends toward political activism and partisan identity for the body of Christ.
Perhaps this denotes a movement back to the Gospel in many circles.
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Re: Current (Non-Sectarian) Political Rumblings.
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2022, 03:24:08 PM »

Canada and the US are becoming increasingly socially divided. In Canada, many parts of the church became conspiratorial about COVID and vaccines, lockdowns, etc. Even otherwise sensible figures within the church have taken to the most obscene views.
It's also a strong rural/urban divide on that matter.

Social media is a primary driver of that division as now everyone can live isolated little lives inside algorithmic bubbles. This is symptomatic, though, and a more fundamental issue is the loss of truth in areas like the news and reporting, which has been replaced with agenda. There's always been agenda, it's just that we're now in a time when the 'news' serves its masters. People need to think critically about these things, but most people aren't in a position to do that, or won't. And so, the right hates women, and the left is woke.
Very well stated.
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