Gog's endtime construction?

[shepherdsword]

Which direction will Russia go, particularly in light of the Gog prophecy?
It's a darn good question. I have a bit unusual perspective, though I got my ideas from others. I think the Beast Empire will be European Civilization uniting East and West, including Russia and the US, and all of Europe. However, until that happens Russia and the US are like the thumbs on left and right hands, and they seek the sphere that enables them to be dominant in the roles they play.

Right now, Russia is decompressing from the fall of the Soviet Union, and trying to establish itself as a major player, having isolated itself during the Cold War. I expect that instead of taking on the entire world, Russia will have to concede a lot in order to become the powerful player it already is.

Russia is still able to rely on partner China to be the rogue operator on the world stage. As long as it has China as an ally, what is to prevent it from being adventurous, particularly since China itself operates freely as a bully on the world stage?

At some point, I think Russia will opt for European relations, instead of its alliance with China. And that becomes more feasible as Europe loses its Christian identity and becomes more socialist. That's a sad state of affairs, and yet the reality, as I see it.

We often see prophecy through a west-centric paradigm. "Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal" Actually refers to the modern state of Turkey. This fact aligns closely with the idea that future beast kingdom will be an Islamic union rather than a European one.

There is this great battle of Gog mentioned in the Bible. The one in Rev 20 appears to be the same player, but at a different time, after the Millennium, or at the end of it. This player is likely Russia, in my view.

So yes, there is this great battle coming to invade Israel. I'm just not sure if it will be with adventurous Russia that we now see, with China's support, or in an alliance with Europe in the Antichristian alliance?

I am of the opinion that it will be an Islamic union as the nations mentioned are all middle eastern ones. It's only our western paradigm that causes us to see "Gomer" as Germany and "Russ" as Russia. The deadly wound healed is a resurrection of the Ottoman caliphate.

[Fenris]

We often see prophecy through a west-centric paradigm. "Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal" Actually refers to the modern state of Turkey. This fact aligns closely with the idea that future beast kingdom will be an Islamic union rather than a European one.

I mean, maybe, but the biggest killers of Jews historically were Europeans. Rome, in 70 and again in 120, and then in modern times Nazi Germany.

[shepherdsword]

I think everything will become clear- after it happens.

Absolutely, I sometimes think the intent of prophecy is not so much to predict the future as it is to built faith once it happens. I am taking this verse out of it's intended context but I think it has a global application:

Jn 14:29
And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.[/color

We often see prophecy through a west-centric paradigm. "Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal" Actually refers to the modern state of Turkey. This fact aligns closely with the idea that future beast kingdom will be an Islamic union rather than a European one.

I mean, maybe, but the biggest killers of Jews historically were Europeans. Rome, in 70 and again in 120, and then in modern times Nazi Germany.

I can't argue with that. However, I believe there is coming a much greater persecution instigated by the rabid radical Islamic sects. Once they rise to political power, I see the beast kingdom arising from the ashes of the Ottoman empire and united for the single reason to destroy Israel(may God protect her)

[Fenris]

Absolutely, I sometimes think the intent of prophecy is not so much to predict the future as it is to built faith once it happens.

Perhaps. Although since I think that all prophecy in the Jewish bible is to bring repentance, I think it's just telling us what the reward will be when we do repent.

I can't argue with that. However, I believe there is coming a much greater persecution instigated by the rabid radical Islamic sects. Once they rise to political power, I see the beast kingdom arising from the ashes of the Ottoman empire and united for the single reason to destroy Israel(may God protect her)

It is possible.