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Athanasius

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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2021, 11:49:15 AM »
My, my.

God said that Adam was a living soul, but YOU say one was PUT INTO him.

And that is " a fairly secondary issue of theology" with you?

You're funny. It seems you've confused two separate questions: (1) the nature of the soul and (2) the 'resting' place of the saved prior to Christ's return. I don't recall saying that God put a living soul in Adam. Where did you read that?

The question of the ultimate destination of the believer prior to the ressurection is a secondary issue, yes. No one's salvation is in jeopardy if they think those who die in Christ go for a long nap or they return to God (or similar). There's certainly a question of a view that's right while all others are wrong, but nothing soteriologically significant.

Pointlessly arguing over where Adam and Eve are, if they're alive, is kind of boring. It strikes me as a means of avoiding the eschatological failures of the JWs 19th-century leadership and prophetic utterances regarding the return of Jesus. What are your thoughts on those, particularly 1799, 1879, 1914? Where exactly does your expertise lie?
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2021, 12:11:52 PM »
It goes back to the very beginning.
But, I know you'd prefer to skip about your scriptural references WITHOUT starting out with God stated he was a living soul....
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2021, 01:13:27 PM »
It goes back to the very beginning.

And...?

But, I know you'd prefer to skip about your scriptural references WITHOUT starting out with God stated he was a living soul....

Why would I start out with anything when it's unclear what you're trying to argue?
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2021, 07:10:00 AM »
Just like a Clergy....
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2021, 09:09:52 AM »
Oooo, witty, that one is...
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2021, 09:14:07 AM »
Fact
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2021, 09:38:49 AM »
Fact

I mean it was true at some point in the past, but not at present. See, I showed up with new glasses one day, and they didn't want me anymore.

But it is a fact that it's unclear what you're looking for, so I have no idea where I'd start. I already told you what I thought about Adam and Eve, and now I've dragged you into a discussion about the JW's failed prophetic utterances, I mean, a secondary issue of soteriology that you would like to make primary.

Thus, placing a burden on others where no burden should be.
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2021, 09:40:35 AM »
Still a FACT.
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2021, 10:03:54 AM »
What's a fact? Actually, what's 'a Clergy'? Don't tell me the JWs are throwing a an a article a in a front a of a everything a now?
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2021, 10:14:09 AM »
Heh!
Deflection.
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2021, 10:43:39 AM »
Heh!
Deflection.

I learned that trick from the Watchtower. :)
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2021, 05:18:57 PM »
I bet you did...
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2021, 04:10:29 AM »
I bet you did...

I did, although from less belligerent JWs than you, if you're even a JW.
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2021, 07:09:21 AM »
Since you 'don't know' where Adam and Eve's 'immortal souls' are, could he hazard a guess?
Heaven, 'Hell',  or some other place?

According to you, God didn't know any bette
r.
Or changed Their minds.
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Re: Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE?
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2021, 08:53:30 AM »
Since you 'don't know' where Adam and Eve's 'immortal souls' are, could he hazard a guess?
Heaven, 'Hell',  or some other place?

According to you, God didn't know any bette
r.
Or changed Their minds.

Remember when I said the following? Might be worth reminding yourself:

They're wherever it is that people in Christ who die go.

Or maybe they've gone for a long, long sleep. Does it matter? Seems like a fairly secondary issue of theology to me.
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