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Quote from: watchinginawe on March 19, 2025, 10:16:08 AM

This all gets to the faith vs works "argument" between Protestantism and Catholicism. Works play an important role in maintaining one's good standing with the Catholic church wherein one is "saved". In Protestantism, one's salvation is through faith and managed primarily with God. This is just a sliver of the real issues at hand, but most are familiar with this.

And this seems to me to be the real weakness of Catholicism. We can all agree that Judaism is a "works based" (although I prefer the term "rules based" ) religion.

If Christianity is a truly break from Judaism, why then did the Catholic church introduce new rules?  Why not just leave the old rules in place then?

Power.  You can only have power if you write the rules.  Since the Catholic group needed new power with a new group they made up new rules

Quote from: Athanasius on March 19, 2025, 08:13:03 AM

Yeahhhhhhh we're not going to be playing the "decieved Jews" game. So that stops now and there are no second chances if it's brought up again.

Quote from: davy on March 18, 2025, 03:30:53 PM

To Whom It May Concern:
I do not like to argue for argument's sake, as some here do. I don't have time for silly arguments just because someone doesn't like what is being taught from God's Word as written.

What does the pesky New Testament have to say to this?

"Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true."

Fenris is our dear friend, and though he does not live in Berea, it doesn't matter so much given that he is examining your message, just as Paul's was examined. Imagine Acts 17:13, "And Paul ignored the Berens". (I misspelt that on purpose.)

Thanks also for letting me know just what kind... of forum this actually is, one that does not like simple Bible teaching unless one is part of the accepted 'clan' here, so your abuse of the Berean idea about Apostle Paul actually you have turned around. Bye, and I wipe my hands and feet of this place.

Byebye

Quote from: IMINXTC on March 14, 2025, 01:19:58 AM

The RCC requirement is that one be 'baptized' in the Catholic faith before partaking in their sacred ordinances. Mass attendance is actually allowed but not communion, which is the core sacrament (Eucharist) of that faith, and the true essence of "Mass."

This was my understanding as well.

This isn't the whole story though since Catholics practice infant baptism. I believe, like in the Godfather, traditionally you are confirmed and take your first Communion. This also is a Sacrament which finishes the work of baptism. Anyway, even then and as I mentioned before, the Catholic church may have reasons to deny one Communion. Communion confirms one's good standing with the church. If you aren't in good standing, you should not partake in Communion.

An example would be divorce. If one divorces and remarries, then they are not in good standing with the church and they should not take Communion.

This all gets to the faith vs works "argument" between Protestantism and Catholicism. Works play an important role in maintaining one's good standing with the Catholic church wherein one is "saved". In Protestantism, one's salvation is through faith and managed primarily with God. This is just a sliver of the real issues at hand, but most are familiar with this.

If you aren’t going to be friends with Fennicus you can’t be friends with me either.  Fendrick is my JooHomey fo’ shizzle.  And he has a space laser.  Beware the space laser, nu?

Seriously Wavy Davy.   Start with the silliness and you’ll find the door.    We don’t call people names, smoke or chew or go with girls who do.

And passive aggressive “I CANT SEE YOU BECAUSE IM IGNORING YOU” works with a 3 year old but around here, meh, not so much.

When you try to debate (silly abbot, kicks are for trids ), with a conservative devout child of Abraham, you should not be surprised to get push back to your HalLindseyJohnHagee hyper dispensational interpretation of the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings or Matthew 24

Fenris be ahite…. I’m jiggy wid it.

Meshugenah shalom and far out.

Thanks for saving me the time. I'll add you to my IGNORE LIST also.

Hi Randy,
That archive link is awesome. Thanks (seems I can't "like" posts yet)

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