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Title: Working together for peace and mutual edification
Post by: Reddogs on July 29, 2026, 07:50:57 AM
Let us be reminded of the words of the Apostle Paul, who exhorted us to strive towards those things which edify each other and aim for peace. That we as Christ's body would work together to reveal the profound truths of God's word, and to bring inner peace with an eye towards eternal salvation.

Romans 14:19
King James Version
19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: RabbiKnife on July 29, 2026, 08:19:06 AM
You seem to be the only one pushing a cultic agenda, which none of us are really interested in.

So I would expect doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different conversation is well, you know.
Title: Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
Post by: Athanasius on July 29, 2026, 08:22:13 AM
I rewrote the OP so that it isn't a Romans 14 proof text.
Title: Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
Post by: Reddogs on July 29, 2026, 08:34:09 AM
I rewrote the OP so that it isn't a Romans 14 proof text.
Thanks my friend, that works for me...
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: IMINXTC on August 03, 2026, 11:28:47 PM
You seem to be the only one pushing a cultic agenda, which none of us are really interested in.

So I would expect doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different conversation is well, you know.


Yes. Edification begins with sound doctrine, which begins with a rightful dividing, which clearly means a contextual rendering of the Word.


A massive blitzkrieg of scripture verses in support of some fixation is neither edifying nor contextual.
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Reddogs on August 04, 2026, 08:01:43 AM
You seem to be the only one pushing a cultic agenda, which none of us are really interested in.

So I would expect doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different conversation is well, you know.


Yes. Edification begins with sound doctrine, which begins with a rightful dividing, which clearly means a contextual rendering of the Word.


A massive blitzkrieg of scripture verses in support of some fixation is neither edifying nor contextual.
Yes, but if we are not using 'sola scriptura' and just philosophy or 'oh vey', is that 'edifying' or 'contextual'. And dont you all hold that to that Gods Word is truth that brings us to what He desires.
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: RabbiKnife on August 04, 2026, 09:32:31 AM
You seem to be the only one pushing a cultic agenda, which none of us are really interested in.

So I would expect doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different conversation is well, you know.


Yes. Edification begins with sound doctrine, which begins with a rightful dividing, which clearly means a contextual rendering of the Word.


A massive blitzkrieg of scripture verses in support of some fixation is neither edifying nor contextual.
Yes, but if we are not using 'sola scriptura' and just philosophy or 'oh vey', is that 'edifying' or 'contextual'. And dont you all hold that to that Gods Word is truth that brings us to what He desires.

The key is “rightly dividing.”

Scripture projectile vomit of every instance of the use of a word one finds in Strongs is as useless as horns on a brass goat.
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Reddogs on August 04, 2026, 10:50:03 AM
What would you suggest we use, the Torah or Qur'an...? Gods Word is given to edify and guide believers, take that out and all you have is philosophy of man to say nothing of confusion....


Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Reddogs on August 04, 2026, 11:00:22 AM
You seem to be the only one pushing a cultic agenda, which none of us are really interested in.

So I would expect doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different conversation is well, you know.


Yes. Edification begins with sound doctrine, which begins with a rightful dividing, which clearly means a contextual rendering of the Word.


A massive blitzkrieg of scripture verses in support of some fixation is neither edifying nor contextual.
Whose doctrine, the RCC, Calvinism, Lutheran...? All have issues, Gods Word is true and by studying it we grasp them instead of relying on man and his traditions...
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Athanasius on August 04, 2026, 11:16:55 AM
What would you suggest we use, the Torah or Qur'an...? Gods Word is given to edify and guide believers, take that out and all you have is philosophy of man to say nothing of confusion....

You already use the Torah. But what does this have to say with what RK shared?
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Fenris on August 04, 2026, 11:51:23 AM
Yes, but if we are not using 'sola scriptura' and just philosophy or 'oh vey', is that 'edifying' or 'contextual'.
I know that 'sola scriptura' is a concept, but simply reading the text cannot be sufficient. One has to apply logic and mental tools to make full sense of what the text is telling us. It was Luther's genius that he was willing to do this separate from the corruption of the Catholic church.

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And dont you all hold that to that Gods Word is truth that brings us to what He desires.
No. God's word is there to give us a choice. Deuteronomy 30:

Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach.  It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?”  Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.

 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. For I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.

 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them,  I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live  and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: IMINXTC on August 04, 2026, 11:58:49 AM
You seem to be the only one pushing a cultic agenda, which none of us are really interested in.

So I would expect doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different conversation is well, you know.


Yes. Edification begins with sound doctrine, which begins with a rightful dividing, which clearly means a contextual rendering of the Word.


A massive blitzkrieg of scripture verses in support of some fixation is neither edifying nor contextual.
Whose doctrine, the RCC, Calvinism, Lutheran...? All have issues, Gods Word is true and by studying it we grasp them instead of relying on man and his traditions...




This is a Bible forum. You are apparently unable or unwilling to advance your Adventist views through the Bible.
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Fenris on August 04, 2026, 12:07:04 PM
This is a Bible forum. You are apparently unable or unwilling to advance your Adventist views through the Bible.
For example, he won't explain how he keeps the Sabbath, although I have asked him numerous times.
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: RabbiKnife on August 04, 2026, 12:31:30 PM
This is a Bible forum. You are apparently unable or unwilling to advance your Adventist views through the Bible.
For example, he won't explain how he keeps the Sabbath, although I have asked him numerous times.

Sayeth Prophet Phenris, Professor of Early Church History and New Testament Apologetics who understands better than many professing Christian…
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Fenris on August 04, 2026, 01:57:44 PM
Sayeth Prophet Phenris, Professor of Early Church History and New Testament Apologetics who understands better than many professing Christian…
I appreciate the compliment, but don't tell my rabbi about it.   :o
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: RabbiKnife on August 04, 2026, 04:19:42 PM
Sayeth Prophet Phenris, Professor of Early Church History and New Testament Apologetics who understands better than many professing Christian…
I appreciate the compliment, but don't tell my rabbi about it.   :o

Know thy enemy… Sun Tszu

😳
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Reddogs on August 04, 2026, 07:18:03 PM
Yes, but if we are not using 'sola scriptura' and just philosophy or 'oh vey', is that 'edifying' or 'contextual'.
I know that 'sola scriptura' is a concept, but simply reading the text cannot be sufficient. One has to apply logic and mental tools to make full sense of what the text is telling us. It was Luther's genius that he was willing to do this separate from the corruption of the Catholic church.

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And dont you all hold that to that Gods Word is truth that brings us to what He desires.
No. God's word is there to give us a choice. Deuteronomy 30:

Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach.  It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?”  Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.

 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. For I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.

 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them,  I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live  and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Some are self evident, and others can be seen by the accompanying text which give context, and others put side by side give clear understanding. But when you put preconceived ideas and ignore the text, you can see the problem. We can go text by text as you like or those which clearly belong together, whichever mode you like and go from there, and see what we find, if that is satisfactory..
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Fenris on August 04, 2026, 09:19:35 PM
But when you put preconceived ideas and ignore the text, you can see the problem. We can go text by text as you like or those which clearly belong together, whichever mode you like and go from there, and see what we find, if that is satisfactory..
Who has ignored the text? Has anyone here ignored the text?
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: RabbiKnife on August 04, 2026, 09:37:27 PM
But when you put preconceived ideas and ignore the text, you can see the problem. We can go text by text as you like or those which clearly belong together, whichever mode you like and go from there, and see what we find, if that is satisfactory..
Who has ignored the text? Has anyone here ignored the text?

By “ignore the text,” he means “fail to agree with his SDA indictrinational screed.”
Title: Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
Post by: IMINXTC on August 05, 2026, 12:45:52 AM
So. Per the OP,  If one is following a false prophet and holding to legalism and making Jesus the Archangel Michael, edification is not the issue.


To claim affinity with the Bible that one does not know how to read and understand is to twist the truth.


Very few believers consider the SDA to be in the realm of orthodoxy.


Be advised!
Title: Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
Post by: Athanasius on August 05, 2026, 09:12:49 AM
If anyone here has ignored the text...

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Title: Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
Post by: Fenris on August 05, 2026, 12:06:15 PM
Romans 14:19
King James Version
19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
Malachi 2: "Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? "

Psalm 34: Who is the man who delights in life, who desires to see good days? Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from deceitful speech. Turn away from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.

Title: Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
Post by: IMINXTC on August 05, 2026, 11:48:36 PM
The cited "Text" is a diversion from the doctrinal statements of previous threads and does not address them..


Now ignoring. Back to travels.
Title: Re: Why not work together to grasp and understand better the meaning in Gods Word.
Post by: Reddogs on August 06, 2026, 08:43:41 AM
But when you put preconceived ideas and ignore the text, you can see the problem. We can go text by text as you like or those which clearly belong together, whichever mode you like and go from there, and see what we find, if that is satisfactory..
Who has ignored the text? Has anyone here ignored the text?
Well lets start with 1 Peter 4:17 and see if we are allowed to see what the text tells us.
Title: Re: Working together for peace and mutual edification
Post by: RabbiKnife on August 06, 2026, 08:57:13 AM
To whom was Peter’s epistle written and from the text of the epistle, why?