Is it time for a third party to prevail?

[IMINXTC]

At any rate, I cannot remember a time when the political spectrum was so dominated by loose canons, on both sides. No need to elaborate, I don't think.


Truly is a new age.


Edit: cannons (sp)

[Athanasius]

LOL, sure. Whatever you say.

As someone who has already been harassed by CBP, I'm afraid your "I know better" fails to account for "here's what's been experienced".

[Fenris]

As someone who has already been harassed by CBP, I'm afraid your "I know better" fails to account for "here's what's been experienced".

I'm sorry that you had a hard time. But that's anecdotal, with a sample size of one. In my experience with immigration law, the people who have problems usually (usually!) created said problems themselves.

We have one client who entered the country illegally. Rather than detain her, they gave her an ankle bracelet with GPS tracking and a court date. Potentially fixable. Well, she decided, all on her own, to remove the ankle bracelet. I have no idea what motivated her to do this. Now she's in detention and facing a very expedited court date with a very upset judge.

[Athanasius]

I'm sorry that you had a hard time. But that's anecdotal, with a sample size of one.

That tends to happen when one is talking about themselves.

[Fenris]

That tends to happen when one is talking about themselves.

When you're "the one"

"Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back."

-Heraclitus

[IMINXTC]

Dunno. Feels like the world regressed at least 50 years over the last 10 or so. Or perhaps progress was a not-so elaborate ruse to begin with.


Now to define progress. Dunno.

[RabbiKnife]

The book of Judges Part Deux….

Everyone does what is right in their own eyes

Didn’t work very well the first time, withered

[ProDeo]

The main problem with modern US politics today is that voters identify with one of the two major parties, despite clear shortcomings and failed leadership. And when politics fuses with one's identity, political disagreement feels personal, fueling further division. The irony is, frustration with the failures of the parties is misdirected and channeled into anger at voters who differ.

Both parties are too focused on their respective agendas and too combative with one another to work together toward the common goal of serving the best interest of the American people--particularly the middle class. Despite the great number of those dissatisfied with both parties, primaries quickly filter out and negate independent candidates.

Even when the public is fed up, the system continues to channel them back into the same two choices, time and time again. Perhaps one day enough voters will tire of the ineffective leadership, broken institutions and tone deaf unresponsive parties, and unite together to send Washington a message by electing a qualified independent. At least one can hope.

How many voters (or percent) do you need for a third party ?

[RabbiKnife]

Ross Perot came closest in recent history back in the 2nd Bush Sr election

He siphoned off enough votes to give Clinton a fairly easy victory over the Republican incumbent

In order to raise enough money and to get on the ballot in all 50 states, a third party needs at least 35% of the electorate

Under our Electoral College system, a three way split would send the election to the House of Representatives

[ProDeo]

Wow, 35%, that is impossible.

Here, for one seat in parliament only 0.67% is needed.

Currently we have 15 parties, splintered power, not recommended.

[Sojourner]

I only throw out the third party idea because both the Republican and Democrat parties have failed the American people, and it might be time to try a fresh approach. Yet, realistically, a third party faces nearly insurmountable constraints in bucking the baked-in two-party system which people are hard-wired to abide by. More often than not, a third party succeeds only in siphoning off just enough votes to impact the outcome of a close race. The reality is, American voters will continue dislike the choice of candidates and resort to picking the lesser of two evils. And continue to hate people who differ with them politically, just because.

[Fenris]

Here, for one seat in parliament only 0.67% is needed.

That's the difference between a parliamentary democracy and a presidential democracy.

[IMINXTC]

Yabutt,

Section 122 of the Trade Act gives the president the authority to temporarily impose tariffs in response to “large and serious United States balance-of-payments deficits,” not trade deficits.


The United States does not have a balance-of-payments deficit, much less a large and serious one.


So, the new tarrif regime must be deemed illegal.


Hurry up, lawsuit!

[RabbiKnife]

Yabutt,

Section 122 of the Trade Act gives the president the authority to temporarily impose tariffs in response to “large and serious United States balance-of-payments deficits,” not trade deficits.


The United States does not have a balance-of-payments deficit, much less a large and serious one.


So, the new tarrif regime must be deemed illegal.


Hurry up, lawsuit!

Do you pray for President Trump as much as you appear to hate him?

This forum becomes increasingly political, tribal, and distasteful.

When did we lose our heart for discussing Biblical issues?