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Athanasius

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Re: God
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2025, 12:52:42 PM »
By the way, "[Slams fist on desk]" and what follows reads incredibly bizarrely. This isn't a manga, senpai.
Maybe he destroyed his keyboard in rage? That happened to me once when I was playing the original Baldur's Gate. You started with a level one character, and lemme tell you, it was super annoying when kobolds one-shot you.

GoG and remasters mean that experience is still very much frustratingly possible :) I have to play Baldur's Gate 3, now that you mention it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2025, 12:59:05 PM »
GoG and remasters mean that experience is still very much frustratingly possible
I actually bought that game for my phone, if you can believe it. I have no idea why. Throwing my expensive phone in a fit of rage is probably not a good idea.

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I have to play Baldur's Gate 3, now that you mention it.
It is very good. Although my favorite in the series is still 2. Also, the combat is difficult even on the easy setting, they really expect you to think outside the box when using tactics.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2025, 01:05:48 PM »
GoG and remasters mean that experience is still very much frustratingly possible
I actually bought that game for my phone, if you can believe it. I have no idea why. Throwing my expensive phone in a fit of rage is probably not a good idea.

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I have to play Baldur's Gate 3, now that you mention it.
It is very good. Although my favorite in the series is still 2. Also, the combat is difficult even on the easy setting, they really expect you to think outside the box when using tactics.

I've heard very good things about it. I have BG3 it's just I got caught up in the Silent Hill 2 remake, then Cronos, and now Silent Hill F.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2025, 01:12:22 PM »
I've heard very good things about it.
It's definitely worth your time.
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2025, 08:36:47 AM »
Surely someone as fluent and versed in Hebrew as you are knows that the word "Elohim" is not the only Hebrew word for "God". We have YHVH, and Adonai, and Shaddai, and Tzevaot, and Ehyeh. And that doesn't even take into account the poetic names. But you knew all this, right?

No. Like I said, I'm not particularly conversant in Jewish and Christian traditions, which came about after the Bible, the subject of my own interest.

YHVH isn't a Hebrew word for God, it's the personal name for a specific God. Adonai is a word meaning lord, not God. Though, you see the difficulty here is that you may disagree because of tradition. To you YHVH is God, and Lord.  Shaddai is also not a word for God but a word meaning almighty. At Genesis 17:1 the Hebrew says El Shaddai, which means God almighty, not God God. 

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In Western culture the atheist take on God is almost exclusively a parody of the theistic - specifically Abrahamic - "sky daddy." The stereotypical magic supernatural creator. They don't see a god as Amaterasu, or Zeus.
I don't know what this means either.

It means that in western culture the word God is typically limited according to Abrahamic traditions.

For certain, the word "Elohim" can refer to human beings. See Exodus 7:1 for example. I do not agree that a human being is or can be God, or even a god.

Uhh are a Christian?

What? Am I a Christian? No. I say that because I don't adhere to the "Christian" doctrine or creed, most of which actually comes from pagan sources and were only introduced only about 400 years after Christ. With, as I've said, Constantine like with the Jews, Alexander.

I don't know what "mortal god" means.

It means a god or God that is mortal. Zeus, the Japanese Royal family, Kim Jong-Un, Eric Clapton, Frodo Baggins, Moses, the judges of Israel, Jesus. 

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Given that, how, then, can your tradition, which I assume is Jewish, reconcile that a human can't be a god?
Because no place in Judaism do we have a human god. Like your screed on Gen 1, you just made up a term.

I did? Hmmm. Let's see, who said Elohim means god(s) and at Psalm 82:1? Your tradition doesn't see this as Jehovah God almighty referring to the judges of Israel, mortal men, as gods i.e. mighty?
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2025, 12:04:20 PM »
No. Like I said, I'm not particularly conversant in Jewish and Christian traditions, which came about after the Bible
This is not "tradition", this is the plain text of the bible.

This came up here quite recently.

Exodus 6:3 וָֽאֵרָ֗א אֶל־אַבְרָהָ֛ם אֶל־יִצְחָ֥ק וְאֶל־יַֽעֲקֹ֖ב בְּאֵ֣ל שַׁדָּ֑י וּשְׁמִ֣י יְהֹוָ֔ה לֹ֥א נוֹדַ֖עְתִּי לָהֶֽם

This is God speaking: "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob with "El Shaddai" ("Almighty God"), but by My name YHVH, I did not become known to them."

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YHVH isn't a Hebrew word for God, it's the personal name for a specific God.
How many gods are there?

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Adonai is a word meaning lord, not God. Though, you see the difficulty here is that you may disagree because of tradition. To you YHVH is God, and Lord.  Shaddai is also not a word for God but a word meaning almighty. At Genesis 17:1 the Hebrew says El Shaddai, which means God almighty, not God God. 
God has different names describing different attributes of His persona. "God Almighty", "Lord of Hosts", etc.


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It means that in western culture the word God is typically limited according to Abrahamic traditions.
I don't know what this means, either.

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What? Am I a Christian? No. I say that because I don't adhere to the "Christian" doctrine or creed, most of which actually comes from pagan sources and were only introduced only about 400 years after Christ.
Oh. So you invented your own religion, then. How nice.


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It means a god or God that is mortal. Zeus, the Japanese Royal family, Kim Jong-Un, Eric Clapton, Frodo Baggins, Moses, the judges of Israel, Jesus. 
Nobody worships Moses as a god. I don't know why you're including ordinary people or fictional characters. The status of Jesus you'll have to take up with the Christians here, who will tell you that he is immortal.


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I did? Hmmm. Let's see, who said Elohim means god(s)
No, it doesn't. It simply refers to power. God said that he would make Moses "an Elohim to Pharoah", Moses was not promoted or ascended to godhood. You're taking words and making them mean what you want them to mean so that you can have fun justifying your own personal religion that you invented at some point in your life.
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2025, 12:21:39 PM »
Humpty Dumpty and Alice…
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

 

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