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Sojourner

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2023, 03:24:17 PM »
Bad people do not want to be told that God exists, and that He has expectations of moral behavior from His creations. Bad people thus hate God. But they can't harm God. But they can harm His people.  And so they hate the Jews.

This doesn't explain the 2 billion Muslims who hate the Jews. They trace their ancestry back to Abraham through Ishmael, consider themselves good, moral people, and profess to worship the same God you do. Despite the evil perpetrated by Muslim agencies such as Hamas and Hebollah, Muslims don't hate God, but simply have the wrong perception of Him, as well as a misguided zeal.
Standing before the Judgment Throne we will retain only two things from this life: what God gave us, and what we accomplished with it.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2023, 03:37:49 PM »
This doesn't explain the 2 billion Muslims who hate the Jews. They trace their ancestry back to Abraham through Ishmael, consider themselves good, moral people, and profess to worship the same God you do.
The same could be said for Christians who hate Jews. Yes, they exist. There are bad Christians, and bad Muslims, and bad atheists. None of them want to hear that God will judge them on their behavior, so they hate God's servants.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2023, 07:49:58 PM »
There are people who are labeled, or self labeled , Christian that are not Christian .

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2023, 09:39:39 PM »
This doesn't explain the 2 billion Muslims who hate the Jews. They trace their ancestry back to Abraham through Ishmael, consider themselves good, moral people, and profess to worship the same God you do.
The same could be said for Christians who hate Jews. Yes, they exist. There are bad Christians, and bad Muslims, and bad atheists. None of them want to hear that God will judge them on their behavior, so they hate God's servants.

The insanity spreads to the point that apparently for some of the social elites in the US it appears that even some Jews in the intelligentsia Jaye Jews in Israel.

Nothing makes sense other than hatred of Jews in Israel is always the lefts fallback position
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2023, 10:11:43 PM »
A friend of mine posted an interesting comment lately.

When Muslim terrorists bombed London nobody was protesting in favor of the Muslims. Nobody wore pins to proclaim their support.

When Muslim terrorists attacked the US on 9/11 nobody was calling for restraint, or to see things from all sides, or supporting the jihadists.

When Muslim terrorists attacked Israel the protests support the terrorists, people expect restraint and even a ceasefire and somehow it's all Israel's fault.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2023, 03:13:51 AM »
The Koran

O my people! Enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you ˹to enter˺. And do not turn back or else you will become losers.” - Soera 5,21

Allah says Israel belongs to the Jews.

But they don't live it.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2023, 08:37:30 AM »
Only the Bible believer can understand antisemitism - the secular world is and has been at a loss to grasp what the prophets have foretold and history has confirmed.
The Devil's rage at God's chosen instrument is perpetually manifest and all history turns in this issue.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2023, 08:25:37 AM »

When Muslim terrorists attacked the US on 9/11 nobody was calling for restraint, or to see things from all sides, or supporting the jihadists.

When Muslim terrorists attacked Israel the protests support the terrorists, people expect restraint and even a ceasefire and somehow it's all Israel's fault.

Well, at the risk gaining an anti-Semite tag to go along with my other recent descriptors, I'd have to disagree with your friend's assertion that no one called for restraint or thoughtful consideration after 9/11. Congresswoman Barbara Lee pretty famously voted against the military force authorization after 9/11 and urged taking time to think through our next steps. She wasn't alone in american society, but she was definitely in the minority. There was also pushback (and rightly so) against the wave of anti-muslim violence and bigotry. At that time it would have been extremely unpopular to voice an opinion that didn't toe the perceived "patriotic" so the fact that there were fewer voices should not be entirely attributed to the idea that people did not hold those opinions when there was some fraction that were not willing to pay the price for publicly expressing them. I think it's also important to consider that during the war on terror many less than ideal facts about our government, our military, our previous operations and alignments came to light that made the calculus for evaluating and supporting the "patriotic" line quite a bit different. Additionally having seen the horrible repercussions that the war on terror had on our service people and their families, the civilian population of the countries that we waged war in, governmental judicial overreach and curtailing of our freedoms, our economy and debt, and the solidarity of our union, the impetus to stay silent or go along with the 'patriotic' line is a much less potent. I don't think that it would be too much of an overstatement to say that supporting Hamas (insofar as that position is a reaction to all of these factors) is a gross overcorrection, but we got here at least in part due to some arguably poor and self destructive decision making under duress in the past, so I get wanting to avoid repeating past mistakes. I think these current attitudes are at least in part another consequence of our war on terror, and obviously another part is that people really hate the Jewish people.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2023, 11:14:34 PM »
There are people who are labeled, or self labeled , Christian that are not Christian .
Unfortunately bad Christians have existed through history and into the present day. Their bad behavior doesn't make them "not Christian" anymore. There are also bad Jews, bad Muslims, and bad atheists. 

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2023, 11:16:04 PM »
Nothing makes sense other than hatred of Jews in Israel is always the lefts fallback position
Yup. Also the far right, and even in the middle. Hatred of Jews is all over the political spectrum.

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2023, 11:18:06 PM »
A friend of mine posted an interesting comment lately.

When Muslim terrorists bombed London nobody was protesting in favor of the Muslims. Nobody wore pins to proclaim their support.

When Muslim terrorists attacked the US on 9/11 nobody was calling for restraint, or to see things from all sides, or supporting the jihadists.

When Muslim terrorists attacked Israel the protests support the terrorists, people expect restraint and even a ceasefire and somehow it's all Israel's fault.
Weird isn't it?

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2023, 08:51:55 AM »
Bad people do not want to be told that God exists, and that He has expectations of moral behavior from His creations. Bad people thus hate God. But they can't harm God. But they can harm His people.  And so they hate the Jews.

Mind you, this also explains hate against devout Christians who live their values and are also by extension "God's servants."

It's interesting that there's nowhere near the same hostiliy shown towards Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists and other faiths.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2023, 12:04:40 PM »
It's interesting that there's nowhere near the same hostiliy shown towards Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists and other faiths.
In the vein of what I've already said in this discussion, I'm going to observe that those faiths tend to be less judgmental of bad behavior than Judaism (and many followers of Christianity. )

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2023, 05:26:41 PM »
First Israel is made the bad guy after being brutally attacked by a savage terrorist organization. Now Iran, the biggest sponsor of such terrorists, and holder of one of the worst records for human rights, will now chair the UN Human Rights Council. Things are getting crazier and uglier by the day.
Standing before the Judgment Throne we will retain only two things from this life: what God gave us, and what we accomplished with it.

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Re: Antisemitism
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2023, 07:08:33 PM »
This is hard to watch. A five year old, begging for her life.

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