Do you know then God of Jesus?

[Zachary]

You still cannot refute Jesus' word of "His Father is His God".

You guys dancing around too much, friend.

God is Jesus' God. But He is also God because He is the Word of God in human form. He is the Son of God because God's Spirit caused His conception in Mary's womb, but He is God in the sense of being the Word incarnate. The Apostle John opens his Gospel presenting Jesus as He was before He was Jesus. We're told that the Word was both with God and was God from eternity (John 1:1-3), and that the Word was robed in humanity, and dwelled among men (John 1:14).

As you read these words, consider that they are my thoughts--invisible, unknown and unknowable to you. Yet, they are given substance and made manifest by my words. They are still my thoughts, but represented in a way you can know them. In a similar way, God is an invisible Spirit, unknown and unknowable to us until He manifests and reveals Himself by means of His Word. In the opening verses of Genesis, He was displeased with the watery darkness in which the earth was submerged. It was His will that there be light. He sent forth His word, and there was light.

In a similar way, Abraham was steeped in a culture of dark paganism and idolatry and the true Almighty was unknown until God revealed Himself to Abraham by speaking to Him. In the midst of the spiritual darkness, God enlightened the mind of a man by sending forth His word to reveal Himself, initiating the beginning of His work of man's redemption. This principle is beautifully depicted by the prophet Isaiah:

For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so My ways are higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts. For just as rain and snow fall from heaven and do not return without watering the earth, making it bud and sprout, and providing seed to sow and food to eat, so My word that proceeds from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please, and it will prosper where I send it. (Isaiah 55:8-11)

God's manifests Himself and reveals His mind, will and purpose by means of His divine word, and Jesus is the human incarnation of that word. That's why Paul calls Him "the image of the invisible God." And that's why Jesus said that to see Him was to see the Father (John 14:9). Jesus spoke of being one with God even before the world existed (John 14:5), and of being sent forth from God to accomplish His will (John 4:34; 8:42; 16;27-28; 17:8-9). Thus, Jesus, as the Word of God incarnate, is declared to have proceeded forth from God to fulfill His purpose in the same manner described by Isaiah. Moreover, He returned to Him not void, but having fully accomplished the purpose for which He was sent by means of His sacrificial death and resurrection.

So yes, God is the God and Father of Jesus. But Jesus is God as the divine Word incarnate; now and forever a temple of glorified humanity in whom dwells the Spirit of God. He has returned to the Father as depicted in Daniel 7:13, and will one day return to establish His earthly kingdom. Those who dwell in that kingdom will not see the invisible God, but will behold upon the throne the Word that reveals and manifests Him, as the king of glory.

Your post sums up my thoughts (I think LOL)

Jesus is God in the sense that he is the Word (or perfect representation, message, whatever) of God in human form.  He is clearly separate from the Father, though to say he is "not equal" doesn't really make sense in the context of who He is.  He is the perfect expression of God the Father.  God revealed Himself through the Law and the Prophets (His Word) and, ultimately, through Jesus.

Whether Jesus is God or Jesus is the Word of God, Son of God...or all of the above, whatever...His death was deemed worthy by God the Father to reconcile us to Himself.

It does appear that when Jesus spoke it was the Holy Ghost of God speaking through him. Just like we ought to, to what measure is given. We can see this happening in example from prophets like
1 Samuel 3
4That the LORD called Samuel: and he answered, Here am I. 5And he ran unto Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou calledst me. And he said, I called not; lie down again. And he went and lay down. 6And the LORD called yet again, Samuel. And Samuel arose and went to Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou didst call me. And he answered, I called not, my son; lie down again. 7Now Samuel did not yet know the LORD, neither was the word of the LORD yet revealed unto him. 8And the LORD called Samuel again the third time. And he arose and went to Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou didst call me. And Eli perceived that the LORD had called the child. 9Therefore Eli said unto Samuel, Go, lie down: and it shall be, if he call thee, that thou shalt say, Speak, LORD; for thy servant heareth. So Samuel went and lay down in his place.

Yet all these prophets (such as Samuel) were given a measure of this thing. But it was written that Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit. Even so, he was also baptized by John and then some saw it descending upon him like a dove.
John 1:32
And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
Matthew 3:16
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

[NeutralZone]

While the Apostle John elaborates more on this verse in First John:
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding that we may know Him that is True, and that we are in Him that is Trueeven in His Son Jesus Christ, This is the True God, and eternal life I John 5:20

When Jesus refers to the Father as Greater then Himself, John 14:28, it is easily explained in this statement: But we see Jesus Who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for every man.  Hebrew 2:9  By reading Hebrews 2:5-18 we see that Jesus was our High Priest Who was Fully God and Fully Man becoming Mediator, Galatians 3:20; I Timothy 2:5-6 between the Holy Father and sinful man which is what Job cried out for, Job9:32-33.

Let me see if I understand what you're saying.  According to scripture at John 14:28, which you correctly referenced in your comment, Jesus made it clear that his heavenly Father is greater than himself.

New King James Version -- John 14:28       https://biblehub.com/nkjv/john/14.htm
"You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I."


But then you turned around and contradicted scripture by telling those reading this thread Jesus is fully God.  Please explain how Jesus--who himself said the Father is greater than he is--can also be "fully God."  The same God that he said is greater than himself.

[RabbiKnife]

Ah!

Calling Athanasius, both our version and his namesake…

So, which particular contribution school do you call home?

[Athanasius]

Should I just link everyone to Trinities and save us all the head ache?

Closing this in any case because no necro posting. But not you RK you're cool this original sin falls on the Romulan and the Cardassian before him.