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RabbiKnife

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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2021, 10:20:11 AM »
OK, well, that's just not true...

I'm sure you have a list of passages that support your interpretation, nu?
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2021, 10:29:05 AM »
Then how is the your "Holy Ghost-God" up Job's nose?
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2021, 10:31:22 AM »
So Jehovah fills millions of people with His "GHOST"?
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2021, 10:44:14 AM »
No.  And you still seem to be hung up on this "Ghost" things, as has already been dealt with as "ghost" is simply an Elizabethan era English word for "spirit," having nothing to do with Caspar, disembodied spirits of dead people, or Space Ghost.

Billions.

Or do you disagree with 1 Cor. 6:19?

Or

Romans 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

Or

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,
Romans 8:26



John 14:15-17
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

Ephesians 5:18

Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.


Romans 8:9-11

You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2021, 10:54:52 AM »
Again the spirit ('breath, wind') of God and Christ.
NOT a Third Spirit Being!
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2021, 10:56:57 AM »
Are you going to discuss the topic?

I might, if this was actually a discussion.
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2021, 11:02:17 AM »
Again the spirit ('breath, wind') of God and Christ.
NOT a Third Spirit Being!

No, the Holy Spirit is a person, not just a breath or wind or impersonal force.

1,  Holy Spirit teaches :  John 14:26, 1 COrinthians 2:13
2.  Holy Spirit speaks:  Acts 8:29, Acts 13:2
3.  Holy SPirit makes decisions:  Acts 15:28
4.  Holy Spirit can be hurt: Ephesians 4:30
5. Holy SPirit can be angry:  Hebrews 10:39
6.  Holy Spirit can be lied to:  Acts 5:3-4
7.  Holy Spirit can stop human actions:  Acts 16:6-7
8.  Holy Spirit searches even God the Father's thoughts:  1 Corinthians 2: 10-11
9.  Holy Spirit gives gifts.  1 Corinthians 12:11
10.  Holy Spirit has a mind and thinks.  Romans 8:26-27

Clearly, these are the actions of a sentient being, not the inanimate actions of an inanimate force.
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2021, 11:02:30 AM »
I'm all ears- one point at a time please!
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2021, 11:07:19 AM »
Athanasius, could you help RK no what the gender is for 'holy spirit' and why its so important...

And since RK won't take to discuss those those verses one at a time- I'll ignore it...
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2021, 11:12:05 AM »
Athanasius, could you help RK no what the gender is for 'holy spirit' and why its so important...

RK knows Greek too, and we both know how grammatical gender operates. Would you also suggest that men don't sin because 'sin' is feminine, or that only men are sinners because 'sinner' is masculine? Maybe what you mean to say is that the Holy Spirit isn't an 'it' but a 'she' because  'ruach' is feminine in the Hebrew?

Or maybe, grammatical gender doesn't correlate to a thing as it exists.

And since RK won't take to discuss those those verses one at a time- I'll ignore it...

Yeah, but you were going to ignore it anyway.
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2021, 11:16:45 AM »
Oh, a party game!  I love games.

So, here's the first one.  Binary answers only.

"For five points, does the Holy Spirit TEACH"?

Ten seconds, everyone. 
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2021, 11:19:43 AM »
I somehow knew that I couldn't count on you to support a point, but divert!
Play them with RK.
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2021, 11:28:57 AM »
I somehow knew that I couldn't count on you to support a point, but divert!
Play them with RK.

I'm one to disappoint, trust me. So why do you whisk away the grammatical point when clearly it demands an answer from you?
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2021, 12:21:51 PM »
I've told you I don't understand Greek.
Now, will you answer me as far as what your God-Ghost was doing up Job's nose?
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2021, 01:32:25 PM »
Only a 2nd grader would argue with a teacher about a subject that the 2nd grader knows nothing about.

You've already received a cogent response to Holy Spirit up Job's nose, Horshack.

You just don't like the answer.

If you refuse to engage in a meaningful way, then there isn't much to talk about.

You spout bad translations or bad understandings of the original texts, then claim that the original text references are church tricks.

Sort of like "for a short fat ugly girl, you're pretty cute."  Sounds snappy, but doesn't satisfy.
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

 

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