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Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« on: November 13, 2021, 01:43:55 PM »
Ghost are the 'immortal souls' of 'dead' departed ones!
How was it translated as GHOST???




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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2021, 05:14:54 PM »
Just 17th century English

No big deal

And there are no such things as ghosts
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2021, 06:30:29 PM »
Yes. Not the way we think of Halloween spooks. ;) "Ghost" and "Spirit" are interchangeable, so that "ghost" would mean "spirit," and vice versa.

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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2021, 10:56:17 AM »
Just 17th century English

No big deal

And there are no such things as ghosts

A big thank you to the Ghostbusters.
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2021, 02:06:00 PM »
So, the Third part of the Triune God just...disappeared!
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2021, 05:15:29 PM »
No, the arguments against the Holy Spirit just disappeared! ;)

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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2021, 05:25:44 PM »
So, the Third part of the Triune God just...disappeared!

Third person*, and that's quite the ridiculous leap.
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2021, 06:36:12 AM »
Clergy have long turned the holy (set apart) spirit (breath) as a ... unnamed, unseen GHOST!
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2021, 07:25:04 AM »
"I ain't scared of no ghost."

Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2021, 07:38:35 AM »
And of course, my favorite ghost.

(Caspar is like, not)

Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2021, 08:02:02 AM »
Good ones!
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2021, 09:43:50 AM »
Clergy have long turned the holy (set apart) spirit (breath) as a ... unnamed, unseen GHOST!

Do you go around as a JW Poe to get other people to toss-up refutations of JW theology on purpose?
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2021, 09:50:21 AM »
Are you going to say something in English?
Are you going to discuss the topic?

Did you know the holy ghost was up in Job's Nose?

Job 27:3- All the while my breath is in me, and the Spirit of God is
in my nostrils...

Was the imaginary Almighty Ghost-God in Job's NOSTRILS? ???
Or was the pure (holy) power (spirit) of God keeping him alive &
breathing?
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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2021, 10:05:03 AM »
The word "pneuma" -- in both the Greek New Testament and in the Greek translation of the Old Testament (the Septuagint) -- is used for "wind," "breath," "spirit", as the context requires.  And the word for "spirit" -- either pneuma or ruach -- is never translated "power".

The NASB for Job 27 says "breath of God," which is a very good translation of the Hebrew.  So you are equivocating between "spirit" and "breath" for some reason, when the context clearly demonstrates that there is no attempt to say the Holy Spirit, as in the third person of the Trinity, is in someone's nose.

But, in reality, for the believer, that is certainly true, so what's the point?

Are you disagreeing with 1 Cor 6:19?  (Do you not know that your body is the temple of the holy spirit within you, which you have from God?)
Danger, Will Robinson.  You will be assimilated, confiscated, folded, mutilated, and spindled. Do not pass go.  Turn right on red. Third star to the right and full speed 'til morning.

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Re: Is the Holy Spirit a ... GHOST!
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2021, 10:08:29 AM »
You miss the point, blinded by your theology.

"Breath", and "Wind" were used the DESCRIBE God's power, or the form of God, Jesus, Demon & Angels.
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