Is free will a failed concept?

[Slug1]

Here is where your argument fails.

The choice is God's choice that He may or may not give. Adam was given the choice, we are not unless God gives it to us. Adam did not have to die, we must die. Adam was not bound to sin, we are.

Was it God's will that Adam NOT eat the fruit?

I ask because you say it's impossible to choose, what God forbids.

[RabbiKnife]

Maybe God had no choice but to choose to let Adam decide whether to choose or not whether to have free will…

[Athanasius]

Here is where your argument fails.

The choice is God's choice that He may or may not give. Adam was given the choice, we are not unless God gives it to us. Adam did not have to die, we must die. Adam was not bound to sin, we are.

You're pointing out your own failure. Read below:

Adam had a will of his own, he was free to choose God's will or to die. As long as he was in God's will he was FREE, free as birdie in the sky or a fishy in the river.

Everyone is free unless they aren't unless they are unless they aren't unless they are unless they aren't. It's consistent nonsense, like the UK Supreme Court.

Pardon me? are you saying you have never sinned? are not a sinner? saved by Grace alone?

Do you not have to work in order to stay alive? perhaps happily you are retired.

Work totally dominates our lives. This was the consequence of being chucked out of the garden.

Yes you are right, I have sinned and I was awful

What a wonderful change in my life has been wrought
since Jesus came into my heart
there's a light in my soul which for long I had sought
since Jesus came into my heart

Since Jesus came into my heart
since Jesus came into my heart
floods of joy o'er my soul
like the sea billows roll
since Jesus came into my heart.

"Adam had a will of his own, he was free to choose God's will or to die" [sic]
"The choice is God's choice that He may or may not give. Adam was given the choice"

Trying to turn my pointing out the contradiction here into "are you saying you have never sinned?" is fantastically disingenuous. When I'm done laughing, give it another try.

Fantastic impression of the UK Supreme Court, by the way.

[teddyv]

This thread gets the Rush song "Freewill" going through my head.

[IMINXTC]

When all else fails, quote the hymnal.

[Athanasius]

When all else fails, quote the hymnal.

"The editor desires to acknowledge the very valuable assistance rendered by Mr William J. Marsh of Forth Worth, Texas, who, besides loaning numerous Mss., contributed the entire section of benediction hymns, many of which he composed expressly for this work."