the ruler to come in Dan 7

[RabbiKnife]

Wait?  What?

Surely this is different from the studio release of the Jewish Bible, or even the Director's cut. It's too bad I overlooked this comment earlier.

Daniel 9:v.27CJB - 27 He will make a strong COVENANT with leaders for one week [of years]. For half of the week he will put a stop to the sacrifice and the grain offering. On the wing of detestable things the desolator will come and continue until the already decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator.”

Daniel 9:27 KJV  And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

And so exactly how does the text in the CJB differ in any substantive way from the revered KJV -- which, of course, relied on the Septuagint for its translation of the Hebrew Text?  Is there anything substantively better about a text going from original Hebrew to Greek to English, as opposed from original Hebrew to English?

What is substantively different between the two texts that renders one acceptable and one non-acceptable?

[Oseas]

Wait?  What?

Surely this is different from the studio release of the Jewish Bible, or even the Director's cut. It's too bad I overlooked this comment earlier.

Daniel 9:v.27CJB - 27 He will make a strong COVENANT with leaders for one week [of years]. For half of the week he will put a stop to the sacrifice and the grain offering. On the wing of detestable things the desolator will come and continue until the already decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator.”

Daniel 9:27 KJV  And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

And so exactly how does the text in the CJB differ in any substantive way from the revered KJV -- which, of course, relied on the Septuagint for its translation of the Hebrew Text?  Is there anything substantively better about a text going from original Hebrew to Greek to English, as opposed from original Hebrew to English?

What is substantively different between the two texts that renders one acceptable and one non-acceptable?

The Word of GOD - the Word is GOD - is not referring to A COVENANT of a week of 24-hour day, it is meaningless, but a week of years, of course. The same happens with 7 weeks, and 62 weeks, as it is written, GOD refers actually to two periods of 1,260 days, the second period with a gap of 30 days, then another gap of 45 days.

[RabbiKnife]

I understand that is your interpretation, but let's start with the text itself.

Is there any meaningful difference between the text as set forth in the Complete Jewish Bible and the King James Version?

We can get to interpretation once we get to an agreement on whether the words we read in English are acceptable to everyone, as opposed to, say, if there was a meaningful difference arising from an issue with the translation from the Hebrew to English.

[Oseas]

I understand that is your interpretation, but let's start with the text itself.

Is there any meaningful difference between the text as set forth in the Complete Jewish Bible and the King James Version?

We can get to interpretation once we get to an agreement on whether the words we read in English are acceptable to everyone, as opposed to, say, if there was a meaningful difference arising from an issue with the translation from the Hebrew to English.

Differences between biblical versions do not prevent the Holy Spirit from distinguishing which version is announcing with more precision, or not, what he himself inspired. Believe you, there are three that bear record in heaven(heaven is not sky, obvious), the Father-GOD the Father;  the Word-the Word made flesh-JESUS;  and the Holy Spirit(who is not a Ghost as is written in English language, but as Person, the Paraclete, the Comfort-John 16:v.7to15-Check it) and these three are One.

[RabbiKnife]

I don’t even know what to say.

There are no inspired translations

Especially none that contain that appeal to the Trinity that is t in the best manuscripts

You haven’t answered the question posed

[Oseas]

I don’t even know what to say.

There are no inspired translations

Especially none that contain that appeal to the Trinity that is t in the best manuscripts

You haven’t answered the question posed

What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD.

He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that GOD is true. -The Word is GOD - He whom GOD hath sent speaketh the words of God(like JESUS): for GOD giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the WRATH of GOD abideth on him.  John 3:v.31-36


I have not any problem with any biblical versions because I can discern what was really said by the Holy Spirit, and what was not. See, God asked to Jeremiah:
Jeremiah, what seest thou? And Jeremiah said, I see a rod of an almond tree. Then said the Lord unto him, Thou hast well seen (this is what matters): for I will hasten my Word to perform it. 

The question is: Why did GOD say to Jeremiah he had well seen? What is the detail that links the rod of almond tree to the Word of GOD?  Whoever did not see the rod of almond tree it was because he had no a true vision of Scriptures, but a false vision, much less had a true message of Scripture like the false prophets.

Jeremiah had seen a rod of almond tree, but what was there in the rod of almond tree so that Jeremiah's vision corresponded equally with God's? So much so that God said: Thou hast well seen: I will hasten my word to perform it.  What is the detail that links the rod of almond tree to the Word of GOD, and to a true interpretation of it according with GOD?

[Athanasius]

... I can discern what was really said by the Holy Spirit, and what was not.

Oh yeah. I'm thinking you're here to correct, not to discuss. Maybe it's time to move along.

[Oseas]

... I can discern what was really said by the Holy Spirit, and what was not.

Oh yeah. I'm thinking you're here to correct, not to discuss. Maybe it's time to move along.

If you think I am here to correct , think it again, please, I work with the Word of GOD-the Word is GOD.

All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works - 2Tim.3:v.16-17KJV.    (My source is Biblegateway; English is not my native language. I am from Brazil. I live in the South of Brazil, near Argentina. As I said, I work with the Word of GOD-the Word is GOD.  For me particularly this is wonderful, by the way, I like to decipher biblical enigmas).

Honestly, I do not know word more powerful than the Word of GOD.

But let me say or to explain the enigma about Jeremiah's vision in consensus with GOD.  Let's see how wonderful is the revelations of the Word of GOD.

Numbers 17
1 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and take of every one of them a rod according to the house of their fathers, of all their princes according to the house of their fathers twelve rods: write thou every man's name upon his rod.

3 And thou shalt write Aaron's name upon the rod of Levi: for one rod shall be for the head of the house of their fathers.

4 And thou shalt lay them up in the tabernacle of the congregation before the testimony, where I will meet with you.

5 And it shall come to pass, that the man's rod, whom I shall choose, shall blossom: and I will make to cease from me the murmurings of the children of Israel, whereby they murmur against you.   (This also happens with me)

6 And Moses spake unto the children of Israel, and every one of their princes gave him a rod apiece, for each prince one, according to their fathers' houses, even twelve rods: and the rod of Aaron was among their rods.

7 And Moses laid up the rods before the Lord in the tabernacle of witness.

8 And it came to pass, that on the morrow Moses went into the tabernacle of witness; and, behold, the rod of Aaron for the house of Levi was budded, and brought forth buds, and bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds.

9 And Moses brought out all the rods from before the Lord unto all the children of Israel: and they looked, and took every man his rod.

10 And the Lord said unto Moses, Bring Aaron's rod again before the testimony, to be kept for a token against the rebels; and thou shalt quite take away their murmurings from me, that they die not.

11 And Moses did so: as the Lord commanded him, so did he.

12 And the children of Israel spake unto Moses, saying, Behold, we die, we perish, we all perish.

13 Whosoever cometh any thing near unto the tabernacle of the Lord shall die: shall we be consumed with dying?

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Reading the biblical content above no need any explanation, nor discussion.  Scriptures explain Scriptures or the Word of GOD explains the Word of GOD, and by/through the above biblical text showing that the Aaron's rod for Levy's house among other 11 rods, was the only rod (symbol of the true Word of GOD) that was budded, and brought forth buds, and bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds.   

Can we see?  The only rod that bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds was Aaron's. Also the true Word of GOD is the only that can bloom and bear fruit as Aaron's rod bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds.       

May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection

Amen


P.S.

JESUS said: Matth.10:v.24-25

24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.

25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord.  If ...

[RandyPNW]

Randy you suggest that Daniel 9:27 has been fulfilled in history?

Yes. If we are to take the "70 Weeks" as representative of a symbolic period of time, a day equal to a year, then the 70th Week would bring us to the 1st Coming of Jesus and to his death on the cross, followed by the fall of Jerusalem and the temple. I see the 70th Week as completed in the middle of the Week, or after only 3.5 years.

It's said that Jesus' earthly ministry only lasted 3.5 years. And he said that after his death, within his own generation, the temple in Jerusalem would be destroyed. Romans would surround the city, and ultimately bring desolation to the Jewish people. It would result in a great tribulation until the time he returns in glory. And Jesus made direct reference to a passage in Daniel in saying this, which is the passage we are now discussing.