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Uhm ok. In your new religion, you're partner with God.

What else could "unity" mean?

Only what I bring from the storehouse is new, but I can also bring the old, just like Jesus said a scribe in service to the Kingdom would be able to do.

So everyone who disagrees with you is "disobedient". To you, to God, it's all the same.

I don't seek agreement, I seek the contention of those who assert lies for the express purpose of practicing truth.

So debating is a means of ascertaining truth through the application of reason which is expressed in words.

Does that make sense?

You keep flinging out math references, but they don't apply to the situation.

How do you support this statement when you are plainly saying, "the God who said He is one is actually three separate persons."

What supports your rationality?

If three persons, why does one have zero words attributed in quotation while the other Two are quoted extensively? That's a deep rabbit hole with all kinds of bombast required for obfuscation.

I don't know what "mystery math" is.

... 1 is not 3.

... 3 is not 1.

Making numbers something other than they clearly, plainly, observably are is delusion.

Trying to conflate them requires belief in nonsensical "divine mystery."

I never claimed everlasting torment. I asked about the punishment of the wicked, which you refuse to address.

The implications inherent to the direction you seek to take the conversation are a trap. I can't address an irrationality that is contingent on it's position within an enthymeme. I won't assume the validity of your foundations as would be necessary to proceed as you demand.

Besides, I'm not worried about the wicked anyway; God will deal with them.

But He also forgives everyone, so nothing matters.

He forgives those who ask, and few do, as most seem content with deception.

And everything matters. Everything has a reason and a purpose. The eternal components aren't going anywhere.

But I'm asking valid lines of inquiry, and you refuse to answer the questions.

You ask about punishment, I say that is beside the point, and you would tell me what my point is?

You ask awry.

You're not a serious person.

Levity is a gift of the Spirit.

I don't love everyone. Do you?

I'm working on that.

By not being pompous and pretending to have all of the answers, for one.

I pretend nothing. I don't have all the answers, hence the narrowed of topics for debate with which I opened this thread.

And your interpretation of my behavior is noted, thank you. I'll see if I can curb what you detect as pomposity in my words going forward. No promises, though.

Alas, the hour grows late and the Sabbath is near. We can continue this conversation tomorrow night, if you haven't been beaten with the ban stick yet. In the meantime, I leave it to the Christian members here to defend Christian dogma.

"If you can't beat 'em, ban 'em"

The authenticity that you and you alone possess. That's creating your own religion.

I created nothing. I am the created in service of the Creator, and I am pleased to associate myself with Him, regardless of what anyone might say.

So, say what you want, but you words are empty accusations as you haven't really contested anything directly.

So nobody deserves punishment? Ever? Hitler started a war that killed 50 million people. He committed genocide. Surely he deserves some punishment?

Who said anything of what is deserved? Distractions, distractions.

Hell doesn't exist. Do you really think it's either eternal torment or a free pass for everyone?

These are particulars of detail that cannot be addressed while the fundamental irrationality continues to be dodged, which is that one cannot reconcile the greatness of God depicted in Scriptures with a literal interpretation of everlasting fire and undying worms.

I'm aware of the parable. I'm also capable of distinguishing between small wrongs and great wrongs. Presumably God is, too.

Then how are you defending irrational math and hatred?

I am. Thus far rather unimpressed.

Good!

I would be doing something wrong if I impressed you.

I may have heard that once or twice. Yet God being a trinity is Christian dogma since Nicea. The year 325. Are you overturning that?

Nothing is overturned, that dogma is not from God and is entirely irrational. It is the lack of an actual foundation which makes these doctrines incredibly weak to inquiry, as dishonesty just can't support a valid opinion.

So Hitler isn't in hell? What about the non Christians he murdered? Also not in hell?

Who might be where is irrelevant when the very notion of the nature of "everlasting condemnation" is what is being challenged. Hell is only desirable to those who hate someone enough to wish them to burn forever.

I have the supernatural power of forgiveness, which means I can forgive anyone, so I do, because God said to forgive!

Why keep hating?

You're here to validate your own beliefs?

What do you think it means to "test the spirits?"

Ban candy!

Although I might agree on the merit of the potential benefits to the population that is large, I do not, in general, support blanket bans or other detractors from the expectations of personal responsibility.

Quote from: HappyServant on February 27, 2026, 12:46:26 PM

God.

The nice part is that human intervention is unnecessary because truth is self-evident by nature. It thrives on exposure.

So really it comes down to observing behavior.

Which is cool because it really comes through online for being reduced to communication almost exlcusively by words alone!

So simply using words honestly makes the truth come out.

Easy breezy, right?

So if someone here disagrees with you, they're actually disagreeing with God?

Although that could be insinuated, that would not be a fair assessment of my claim.

I only say I am His and that I speak truth.

What others say to God has nothing to do with me.

I do propound that there are some really basic doctrinal errors in need of correction, but most people get angry at the idea they could be wrong on such a deep level (down to their very spirit, even).

But now I can say that God is one and singular all day and most people aren't even going to take the time to actually consider the words I say.

So no, a disagreement with me is a contention I welcome as an opportunity to share the God I serve.

Quote from: HappyServant on February 27, 2026, 12:28:12 PM

I do not, all of His know Him.

Who are "all of His"?

All who practice truth.

Quote from: HappyServant on February 27, 2026, 10:54:51 AM

Oh, and one final note; no "-ism" applies to me. I do not follow any preacher of men. I uplift no extrabiblical name as a source and have no desire to promote my own. I preach no doctrine but ardent Bible study and ceaseless prayer in dedication to the God of Truth. And I only preach that which I have proven to myself by demonstrably consistent practice.

Why is this a thing? Why do some people think that they alone have the truth?

Wonderful! Thank you!

This is what God offers, the opportunity for just that; to be possessed of Him! By Him!

To belong to God is to have Him, which is to have the Truth!

Isn't that what you want?

It is my most cherished possession, being possessed of the Word.