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So Peter was wrong.
No, you are.
If you can't distinguish between the prophets and their prophecies and Saul's letters, or Peter's, then the error is yours.
Letters don't compare with the prophets of Israel.
Even Saul understood he was not writing prophecies like the prophets. Letters are just letters. I write letters. Do I include them alongside the prophets of Israel?
Nope. Not even.

Gues what? I write scripture, too. But I've already made my point and do not want to repeat myself.

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Love your neighbor as yourself

guess Jesus didnt get the memo.
Jesus didn't come to destroy the Law but to uphold it.

He is addressing Jews and brings up the original command and then upholds it. The Jews who were listening to Him teach out of the Law understood perfectly He was teaching on the original command God gave to the twelve tribes in the desert.

Jesus taught the Hebrew people from out of their Law. Mixed heritage Jews of Jew-Gentile descent was also included in the covenants because they were still Abraham's seed. Like the Samaritan woman. She was a daughter of Abraham.

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Theology / Re: What Makes A Person Jewish?
« on: June 02, 2025, 07:32:40 AM »
If you can't attack the position of truth posted, you attack the person.

Unless, of course, you can post Scripture that God includes non-Hebrews in His covenants with the Hebrew people.

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Theology / Re: What Makes A Person Jewish?
« on: June 02, 2025, 06:09:45 AM »
Even under the Misaic Law a gentile could convert and become a child of the Covenant.

Silly people. 

Matzoh ball soup and latkkes make you Jewish…. At least the ones made by Mrs Fenris have that power…
Any non-Hebrew Gentile can become allies with the commonwealth of Israel but never included in any of the Hebrew covenants.

The Abraham Covenant is between God, Abraham, and extended to Abraham's seed.

The Mosaic Covenant is between God and the children of Israel made when the Hebrews were in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle.

The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes). and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.)

There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles included in any of these three Hebrew covenants.

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God instructed the twelve tribes of Israel on love while they were in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle. The instruction is found in Leviticus 19 and here God instructs on love and commands to whom love is to be given: from Israel to Israel.

God never instructed the twelve tribes to love the Gentile peoples/nations which surrounded Israel. Love is commanded to be shared ONLY with fellow brethren. Holy love to a holy people and such love which comes with profit when given according to the commands.

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Truly incredible how "all Scripture" isn't meant to mean "all Scripture" but "just the Scripture Paul was aware of".

Or like, "all" can mean "all" regardless of Paul's immediate context, so it would naturally follow that all Scripture refers necessarily to all Scripture, regardless of Paul's particular awarenesses.
"All Scripture" refers to the oracles of God in possession of the Hebrew people and these are Genesis to Malachi which are the Law, Psalms, and the Prophets.

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friend said this.
Romantic love is certainly found in the Bible. Not only is the Song of Solomon about romantic love but so is the love of Jacob for Rachel and his willingness to serve Laban for seven years in order to marry her.
Gen. 29:18 Now Jacob loved Rachel, so he said, ''I will serve you seven years for your younger daughter Rachel. . . 20] So Jacob served seven years for Rachel and they seemed to him but a few days because of his love for her.
So there you have it.

Very close.
True, Godly love is:

"For God so loved the world that He gave..."

Are you following?

Love is a verb, it's an action. In the case of God He so loved that He gave (His only begotten Son..."
And love is commanded by God to His people to be shared among His people only. The world is enemy of God and if you give God's love, which is Holy, to unholy people you are in effect disobedient, disloyal, and betray God.
What is it called if we love God's enemies (the world)?
Treasonous.

Leviticus 19:17-18.

Take note love is to be shared with our brethren from another mother, and brethren from the same mother.
Ya falla?

In your example, that God loved precedes that God gave. It's both/and, not either/or.
Explain, please.

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Theology / Re: What Makes A Person Jewish?
« on: June 01, 2025, 07:40:29 PM »
In another thread, Fenris said (some) Christians have been haters of other people and this could determine if that person was a real Christian.
Does conduct have any bearing on whether someone is Jewish?

Genesis 12, 15, and 17, describe what's known as the Abrahamic Covenant. God promises Abraham and his seed, a people later to be identified as the children of Israel, many things such as land, blessings, etcetera.

Later, God builds upon the Abrahamic Covenant and makes a New Covenant through Moses with the twelve tribes of Israel (Jacob.) Here, God gives the twelve tribes He delivered from the bondage in Israel His Law in order for them to live according to God's Laws. This is called the Mosaic Covenant and there are three parts covering daily living for the Hebrew people. The Moral Laws (Ten Commandments), the Social Laws, and the Ceremonial Laws. These Law lay out God's expectation of this people living under His commandments.

Later, through the sacrifice of His Son, the lamb of God, Jesus Christ offers Himself to atone for the sins of the Hebrew people who are under the Law and this included All of Abraham's offspring through Isaac, then Jacob, then through Jacob's twelve sons and their offspring.

Anyone who is born of Abraham is a Hebrew/Jew. This includes the offspring of the promised Isaac, and then the inheritance of the Abraham covenant is inherited by Jacob (who God changed his name to "Israel"), and through Jacobs twelve sons and their offspring.

It is impossible for any non-Hebrew Gentile to become a Jew.








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16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Ti 3:16–17.

Traditional Dating (assuming Pauline authorship): A.D. 64-67, during Paul's second Roman imprisonment and shortly before his death.

When Saul wrote his second letter to Timothy the reference to "All Scripture" refers to the Hebrew Scripture of the Law (Pentateuch, five "books" of Moses), the Psalms, and the Prophets. these 39 "books" of the Bible are the Old Testament writings as described above.

Once a person becomes born-again - and this usually refers to Jews who are born-again by the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL - their relationship with the God of Abraham takes on a new dynamic. In this spiritual new birth natural Olive tree Israel becomes spiritual Olive tree Israel, and the person becomes a new spiritual being. Their relationship to the Law of Moses deepens and several things happen.

1. God creates a new human spirit in the person, and they are restored into the trichotomy (three-part) image of God: body, soul, and human spirit.

2. The Holy Spirit is the agent of this change and now dwells in the life of the believer.

3. God declares the person, "Not Guilty!" of transgressing His Law called "justification." This is a one-time event.

4. The Holy Spirit now dwelling within the person begins a process of sanctification whose purpose is to daily conform the person into the image of Christ. This is an inward conformity in which through repentance (Greek: metanoia - changing one's mind) a person's 'spirit' or attitude undergoes a change in which sin and the things the person used to obey (ex. fornication, drugs, smoking, evil thoughts, cursing, etc.), no longer please the person and these things are replaced with right-living according to the measure of their faith in accordance with the Word of God. They go to church, read their Bible, and participate in events and people of like mind (Christians.) As this person learns Scripture their life's activities change because their minds change towards the things of God.

Although the Old Testament Scripture teaches that no one can become righteous merely through outwardly making every attempt to obey God's Laws, the Law now serves as the vehicle through which they learn God's Laws, and these instruct the person to right living (righteousness.)

Because the New Testament writings were not used in the way they are today, letters by Saul, Peter, James, John, etc., would eventually in the 4th century be gathered and added to the Old Testament canon by Gentiles, they are not yet seen or accepted as "Bible." What the New Covenant (New Testament) writings are is the discussion and explanation to Jews and Jewish Christians through letters about the New Covenant era Israel found herself in overnight since Pentecost. By reading and studying the Hebrew Scripture of Law, Psalms, and the Prophets, certain persons wrote letters explaining these Acts of the Holy Spirit taking place daily among the Jews were prophesied and written about in the Old Testament and while under the anointing they searched the Old Testament Scripture which described the New Covenant within its pages. Saul, a rabbi and Pharisee met Jesus on the road to Damascus and who knew the Old Testament studied the OT and God used him to bring out from the OT those things the Holy Spirit was doing among the Jews and what certain doctrines now began to be understood in the light of Scripture.

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Theology / Re: Is free will a failed concept?
« on: June 01, 2025, 06:08:54 AM »
I believe free will in man (or angel) is an illusion.

I also no longer believe in a "Fall" of man, a "Fall" which is tied to the man and woman's act of eating from the forbidden Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

Scripture clearly teaches that sin comes from sinner and holiness comes from Holy. Sin cannot come from someone who is Holy as 1 Corinthians 15 makes distinction between "earthy", created matter (man), and the Lord from heaven - Holy child becoming a Holy man: Jesus.

The question of "free will" in man touches several major doctrines in Scripture, one of which is "Was man created holy or was man created sinful?" If man was created holy, then there is no free will to exercise for every act and thought would come from a sinless being, such as is that of "the Lord from heaven" (Christ.)

If man were created sinful then every act and thought would be "continually evil."
Sin would come from sinner.

And why I don't believe in a "Fall" of man is mainly that the act of eating from the forbidden Tree was not man's fist sin. It was his second: lying.

      6       Add thou not unto his words,
      Lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
      Proverbs 30:6.

By adding to God's Word "neither shall ye touch it [the Tree]" the man and woman prove themselves as liars and lying is a sin and sin comes from sinner.
Besides this the command "Thou shalt not" also proves that man was created sinful. But before you who read this go off the deep end, I want to make clear the definition of "sin" comes from Strong, who defines the word "sin" as "missing the mark." Now I ask, what is this "mark" that was "missed"?
The glory of God, or the glory that is God.

God Himself is the standard by which everything and everyone is judged against. Isaiah mentions three foundational truths about God. He says, "There is only ONE God, there is NONE like Him, and He gives His glory to NO ONE."

If these three things about God is true - and they are - then the created 'makeup' of man is that he was created "missing the mark" of the glory of God. Sinlessness is a glory of God. It is His Nature, His Deific Attributes of Being. Thus, God cannot sin because His Nature is Sinlessness. And since Isaiah says God gives His glory ["Sinlessness"] to no one, then man by default was created sinful, or missing the mark of the glory of God. Man sinned; Jesus did not. One was sinful, the other was Sinless. Man sinned and so he has a sinful nature and one that needs to be redeemed in order to maintain the "image of God," not the image of Adam. As born-again believers we are being conformed into the image of Christ, not the image of Adam. One is of the earth, earthy; the other is the Lord from heaven, Sinless, neither was guild found in His mouth. And since the leopard cannot change his spots, neither can man change his nature, his DNA. And as such on both counts, the leopard by nature will eat meat, while the chicken by its nature will only eat seed. The leopard will not eat seed, and the chicken will not eat meat. Their natures are set and set with a sin nature.

Man was not created sinless else he would not have sinned. The last/second Adam (Christ) proves this. Christ was Sinless, Christ was Holy, Christ was Righteous, and He did no sin. Man, on the other hand sinned thus proving God did not reduplicate His glory of sinlessness in man nor did God create man as eternal. These are Attributes of God and He shares nor gives none of His glory to man.

So, if Christ is Holy, then Christ by Nature cannot sin. If man is sinful, then if follows that he will sin.

13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked:
1 Samuel 24:13.

is the same as sin comes from sinner. Sin cannot come from that or He that is Holy. Therefore, if man was created sinful, or missing the mark of the glory of God, then it follows that he is a sinner and [free] will sin. Man, sins because he is a sinner; he is not a sinner because he sins. The latter destroys the Doctrine of Imputation.

I think that's all for now. We have no free will. We have a sin nature we were created with and based upon that nature, we sin and will always sin, that's why God gave the "Thou shalt not" in the Garden. If there is no Law, then there is no sin according to Saul. It is the existence of "Thou shalt not" that proves man was a sinner before he disobeyed God and ate from the Tree. And the Tree did not change the man. It was just a regular tree. But God used it to give the man the KNOWLEDGE of his sinfulness. And it worked.

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Theology / Re: Can the law grant eternal life?
« on: June 01, 2025, 05:21:32 AM »
Let's take a look at what transpired between Jesus and someone who asked Jesus an important question about "inheriting eternal life."

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Mt 19:16–26.

This account is also found in Mark 10:17-27 and Luke 18:18-27, and Luke states this person was a "ruler" (Greek: "archon") which under Roman occupation meant he most likely was appointed to as some [chief] magistrate "over" the people.

Another point to consider is both Mark and Luke have him asking what he must do to "inherit" eternal life. Beginning with Isaac on through the generations of Hebrews to Jesus' day when it speaks of "inheritance" it mostly refers to the Abraham Covenant and the promises God gave to Abraham, who specifically asked God for someone "of his seed" to inherit his possessions, and Abraham had great possessions given him of God (Gen. 15.)

After this ruler [of the people] asked Jesus what he would "do" to inherit eternal life Jesus directs him to the Law of Moses (Matt. 19:17), specifically the Ten Commandments (Moral Law.) When the man asked Jesus, "which" commandments Jesus names off the six commandments from the second tablet: "Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" clearly referring to his relationship with other Hebrews. The man then states he has obeyed all these commandments since he was a youth but asked further what more did he lack? Jesus instructs the man and says, "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me."

In order for the man to be "perfect" (Greek: "complete") Jesus states that, "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me."

Jesus gives the man three things to "do" and he will be complete/perfect. They are:
1. sell everything you have
2. give it to the poor
3. follow me (Jesus.)

Out of these three things what was it ALSO that he lacked?
Ans. Follow Jesus.

Although he went away sorrowful "because he had great possessions" I believe the man eventually did follow Jesus and he may have been among the three thousand Jews that were born-again on the day of the Jewish Feast of Harvest (Pentecost - Acts 2), or even among the thousands that were born-again "daily such as should be saved" (Acts 2:47) in the days and weeks and months that followed.

What this conversation reveals to me is the connection between all three Hebrew covenants; Abraham Covenant "inherit"; Mosaic Covenant: "sacrifices for Israel's sins under the Law; and the New Covenant: "following Jesus" (Christianity.)

In Romans 11:26-27 Saul states, "And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins." (Romans 11:26–27.)

and in his letter to Jews and Jewish Christians in the Galatian region:

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Galatians 4:4–5.

From our perspective of looking at Hebrew history after the cross we see the joining of all three Hebrew covenants as part of the redemptive history of the Hebrew people. Beginning with the Abrahamic Covenant made between God, Abraham, and Abraham's seed (Genesis 12, 15, and 17), building upon that with the Mosaic Covenant between God and Abraham's seed, a people identified as the children of Israel (Exodus 19:5), culminating in a New Covenant in which Israel's sins are eternally forgiven and remembered "no more." (atoned - Jeremiah 31:34) by God.

The inescapeable fact is Scripture records the God of Abraham saving Abraham and his seed (family) through a series of covenant promises by God culminating in the redemption of the Hebrew people "in the fulness of time" which we now know was done by Jesus Christ, the lamb of God, sacrificed under the substitutional ritual Laws under the Mosaic Covenant. We see that while under the Law, which Jesus directed the man to obey the commandments of God, that his inheritance was not really "seeds as of many," but of one: Jesus, the One Jesus told the man to "follow" and he would be complete, nothing lacking, and his inheritance of eternal life secured.

That's what I see and how it played out for a Hebrew man and his request of what he must "do" for eternal life:

Follow Jesus. Follow Jesus while under the Law in order to get to the New Covenant which is really the Mosaic Covenant fulfilled by and in Jesus.


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In General / Re: There is a new Pope
« on: June 01, 2025, 04:02:58 AM »
What I found interesting was the fact that he comes out of the Augustinian Order. He's still Catholic but before the vote I thought to myself if they would have the boldness to choose one from the Augustinian Order. Augustine is held up by both Protestants and Catholics as one of their main theologians, but to Protestants Augustine was studied by Calvin and is one whose theology was closest to the Bible.

I wonder if he was chosen to facilitate the merging together of the E.C.T. movement of the past couple of decades, a merging fully supported by (surprise!) J.I. Packer before his death, support that was greatly challenged by most big-name Evangelicals. ECT stands for "Evangelicals and Catholics Together."

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That’s between you and the Holy Spirit and your job as a steward
Thanks, RabbiKnife.

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Welcome / Re: Hello to All
« on: June 01, 2025, 03:41:42 AM »
Welcome Jer. I'm lovin on your avatar my friend.
Hello Parson. The good thing is there's more out there for you to choose from. See you on post.

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friend said this.
Romantic love is certainly found in the Bible. Not only is the Song of Solomon about romantic love but so is the love of Jacob for Rachel and his willingness to serve Laban for seven years in order to marry her.
Gen. 29:18 Now Jacob loved Rachel, so he said, ''I will serve you seven years for your younger daughter Rachel. . . 20] So Jacob served seven years for Rachel and they seemed to him but a few days because of his love for her.
So there you have it.

Very close.
True, Godly love is:

"For God so loved the world that He gave..."

Are you following?

Love is a verb, it's an action. In the case of God He so loved that He gave (His only begotten Son..."
And love is commanded by God to His people to be shared among His people only. The world is enemy of God and if you give God's love, which is Holy, to unholy people you are in effect disobedient, disloyal, and betray God.
What is it called if we love God's enemies (the world)?
Treasonous.

Leviticus 19:17-18.

Take note love is to be shared with our brethren from another mother, and brethren from the same mother.
Ya falla?






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