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I remember a post by teddyv a number years back. He mentioned that the statement by TV evangelists and such that earthquakes are getting more power and frequent now is false. He had a link to data that proved them wrong. @teddyv, do you still have access to that data?

Thanks!

   We should look into both the goodness and the severity of God (Romans 11:22). God mourns for every soul that He has to condemn to hell. But he will indeed condemn countless souls to hell, and we cannot comprehend the seriousness of that. If God would just end the history right away, that would be easier for Him, since all sins of all generations were placed upon Jesus. But He bears us, despite that we all would deserve hell, and can only be saved through the blood of Jesus, if we repent and believe the gospel. That judgements in the world come in steps (and some of those gradually), is mercy to mankind. Many can see that judgements are indeed coming and can repent before dying. Some get the chance to repent when dying in the judgements. And God gives warnings ahead, which is proof to mankind of the reality of Him.
    Some persons look arrogantly at the judgements of God: “It is only for those liberals. But I, even if I were there, would go straight to the heaven.” Some of those who think so are denying their faith by their deeds, like for example living in fornication or adultery. Sin in believers life can mean crucifying Jesus again. It is worse in front of God than sin of those who never knew Jesus. And if you are truly in a good condition in bad spiritual  times, you cannot know how much of that is really because of your free-will choices and how much because you got the grace that God influenced you more than most people in your time, so that light would be preserved in some lamps.
   Revelation chapters 17 and 18 speak about a great harlot, Babylon. I believe the harlotry refers to apostasy. There is apostasy inside and outside the churches, in conservative and liberal sides. I believe there is no single one-to-one correspondence of the Babylon to some earthly entity. Babylon is a spiritual concept and spiritual entity in the invisible world. Babylon has church-manifestations, city manifestations and country manifestations on the earth. Not differentiating between these and not realizing that there are two phases in the destruction described in chapter 18 has led to errors like speaking about annihilation of United States in this context. Even though Babylon is not a single entity on Earth, this does not mean that God would not give specific detailed warnings related to it’s destruction -quite the opposite is true, as we shall see.
     Revelation chapter 18 speaks about a sudden destruction of a powerful, large and rich city in a fire whose smoke can be seen from the sea. I believe this refers to more than one city, and that it speaks about nuclear terrorist attacks, that David Wilkerson also spoke about. Verse 17:18 describes the city as an imperial capital, that will say, at some part of it’s history. The economical significance and power described in chapter 18 at the time of the destruction points to New York and London, if understood as a property of a singular city. New York was not an imperial capital, but it has UN Security Council which has “kingship over the kings of the earth” when it succeeds in making a decision. City of Rome can be recognized from chapter 17, which has references to both the city and the Roman Catholic Church.
   I believe that Revelation 18 has two phases, earlier and latter. Verses 4-19 (or 9-19) are about the earlier phase essentially and the rest are about the latter phase. The earlier phase is about a great destruction that among other things takes the riches of the city away, but does not completely end the normal human life in the city (see verse 14). Observe that Hiroshima is still a major city today. The latter phase happens very late in the end times and means complete end of the normal human life in the city. See verses 22 and 23. Before the latter phase of destructions there happen persecutions of Christians all over the world (notice verse 20), but not necessarily before the first phase.
    The well known Biblical expression “time, times and half” (moed, moedim wachetzi) is connected to several prophecies. It is also connected to Revelation chapter 18. Please take into account that a prophetic text can have several parallel correct meanings. One of the meanings of the word moed  is appointed signal. It turns out that moed, moedim wachetzi gives signals related to cities of Revelation chapter 18. I will outline how the Hebrew expression gives the signals.
     We know that the basic meaning of time, times and half is 1260 days, which corresponds to ‘time, 2 times and half’, with time being 360 days. This can be seen by comparing Revelation 12:6 and 12:14. The number 2 is not in the Hebrew or Greek expression; it can also mean ‘time, 3 times and half’, or ‘time, 4 times and half’ and so on. With the same value of “time” as in 1260 these interpretations correspond to 1620 days, 1980 days, 2340 days and so on. So, a single Hebrew expression gives actually a sequence of numbers, and it turns out that many of the early numbers of this infinite sequence have prophetic signals. The first one, 1260, contains 260, which is the number of District of Columbia in Hebrew  according to standard modern Hebrew spelling. Daniel chapter 12 that also has the expression “time, times and half” says that these things will be sealed until the time of the end (see verse 9). The signals that I talk about are intended for the last generation and for the proper time. Most of the signals use the binary base, instead of decimal base. For this generation that is ok. God knew all bases and units and everything in His sovereign foreknowledge. Here is a list of some of the signals in these numbers.
1260 District of Columbia (Washington)
1620 Mexico City, Jerusalem (Jerusalem is possibly here due to reasons other than Revelation 18), Miami
1980 Rome, Damascus
2340 London, Berlin
2700 Istanbul
3060 New York, Kiev
3420 Moscow
3780 Amsterdam
4140 Madrid
Except the first one all these signals are of the type that the binary representation of the number on the left contains the binary representation of the number of the city in standard modern Hebrew spelling. Excluding Jerusalem and Miami these cities can all be regarded as imperial capitals (with New York included because of the Security Council). Even Kiev was the capital of Kievan Rus, the largest country of Europe in it’s time of greatness, and a major military power. Mexico City was the capital of Spanish Latin America, and before that the capital of the Aztec empire.
    Later in the prophetic sequence there comes extensive references to Revelation 18:4. Together with that there are further references to specific cities. God has allowed confirmations that the numbers of cities are not all in the list coincidentally. For example, the number 1980 mentioned above, that contains the modern Hebrew number of Rome contains also the Greek number of Rome in binary.
    I have done computer tests related to appearance of the cities in the binary representations of the prophetic numbers. The European part is more easily tested. The beginning of the list when counting only European cities is
1260 -
1620 -
1980 Rome
2340 London, Berlin (both numbers appear twice overlapping in 2340)
2700 Istanbul
3060 Kiev
3420 Moscow
   This correlates with the list of cities ruling over greatest share of world population at the time of their peak power, which for Europe would begin: Rome, Istanbul, London, Berlin, Moscow, S. Petersburg, Paris. (Istanbul was for a time the capital of the whole Roman Empire). This is connected to Revelation 17:18. Computer test that took into account first 5 of the prophetic numbers and first 7 of the cities in their historical ranking gave probability less than 11000 for random coincidence. This is indeed small enough to take notice.
    God is providing information about where to leave to avoid judgement of the Babylon-cities. As promised in Revelation 18 (through verses 4 and following), the information about leaving will be available before the destruction. What is in this sequence of prophetic message numbers is part of that information. It is also part of the handwriting on the wall. God, in His faithfulness, gives handwriting on the wall that is for everyone to see, after it is discovered, handwriting that comes through the Bible itself. Bible is exactly where to anchor in the last times.
    The seriousness of the issue necessitates caution. God has nevertheless provided multiple confirmations to many details. Many numbers of cities contained in the sequence are accompanied by numbers of words closely connected to the city. For example in 2340 the number of Berlin (292) appears twice overlapping itself in binary. In the same number there is also the number the river Spree in the city. And the next number 2700 in the sequence has the number of Berlin in Greek.

About prophetic message numbers in general

    Still, for the issue of getting messages from prophetic message numbers, as those above, caution is needed. When getting messages from prophetic message numbers I propose the following five conditions. First, the messages should be about details, not doctrines. That is, messages should be about times, places and other outer details, not doctrinal statements or claims about spiritual concepts. Second, the details should be about the prophecy where those prophetic message numbers appear. If that prophecy is connected to another prophecy, the message number can be about details of that other prophecy too. Third, the message number should appear in the prophetic text as a message number. For this, one should allow unconventional understandings of the text. Fourth, the message should fit into how that message number appears in the prophetic text. Fifth, the message number should be demonstrated to have truthful data as a message number. In case of a number related to a prophecy whose fulfillment is entirely in the future, the truthful data should relate to known details of the domain where it will presumably be fulfilled (according to a reasonable understanding of the text). Instead of “domain” one can have something specific of the real world related to the proposed fulfillment. Here one should require that the truthful data is not plausible as a coincidence. Without these 5 conditions or something similar one could claim that Bible says almost anything through prophetic message numbers.

Brief analysis of the prophetic word related to the prophetic message numbers

    In the case above these 5 conditions are satisfied, even though I have not yet proved it here. To this end, consider first Daniel 12, where it is written
   “5Then I, Daniel, looked, and two others were standing there, one on this bank of the river and one on the other. 6One of them said to the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long until the end of these extraordinary things? ” 7Then I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river. He raised both his hands toward heaven and swore by Him who lives eternally that it would be for a time, times, and half a time. When the power of the holy people is shattered, all these things will be completed.”
     Time, times and half is connected to 2300 years through it’s basic meaning 1260 days. The numeric value of the expression “alpayim we-shelosh meot”, when written as in modern Hebrew with two yods in alpayim to distinguish it from alafim, is precisely 1260. It is known, that one fulfillment of 2300 ereb boqer is the time interval ending in 1967. At that time the last generation was already there. It is also known that the coming of Jesus cannot be known more accurately than the generation. In Daniel 12:7 the answer is actually that the end-times generation is there at the end of the 2300-year interval, what comes to time.
    After learning this, let us look into Revelation chapter 12. Revelation 12:5 refers to Jesus and His ascension to heaven. The next verse says: “And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.”. This is often understood as speaking about some specific difficult 3.5-years in the end times. But that is not the only meaning here (if it speaks about that at all). The being in the prepared place started after the ascension of Jesus. This speaks about God’s protection in general throughout new covenant history all the way to the last generation, including the last generation. Here as in Daniel 12 the number 1260 refers to 2300 years, which end at 1967, and mark the last generation. After the last generation, in the thousand year kingdom, there is no longer need for similar God’s protection, since Jesus rules on Earth and the devil is bound.
    Verse 14 says “And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.”. I skip the issue of the meaning of the great eagle here for brevity, but I believe, that in the general case the two wings are obedience and prayer, which can be confirmed by Bible verses as you know. So far this is about the general case of protection of God for His people. But there is also more specific information here related to God’s protection in some case or cases.
      In verse 14 we have a Greek version of moed, moedim wachetzi, καιρόν, καὶ καιρούς, καὶ ἥμισυ καιροῦ (in accusative). Since this is a specific spiritual concept or phrase, that appears both in Greek and Hebrew, I consider it legitimate to look into it’s meanings’ nuances in both languages when considering it in the Greek text. Consider the Hebrew meaning “appointed signal, appointed signals and part [of appointed signal]” in the Greek sentence. It is in the accusative case and it specifies verb τρέφεται (she is nourished, she is supported). Accusative specifies basicly the extent of the action of the verb, that is, where the action reaches, where it happens. In some rare cases it specifies according to what the action of the verb happens. Here essentially she is supported according to appointed signals. The signals give information about the limits and extent of the support, for example, from what cities you have to leave to avoid death in Revelation 18.
     How about the appointedness issue of these appointed signals? Appointed how? The destruction of Babylon in Revelation 18 is a major issue what comes to the security, and the request to leave Babylon-cities before destruction is a major issue related to God’s protection. As such it is a big single part of the protection that Revelation 12 speaks about. In Revelation 18 we see, that information about leaving comes before the destruction. In this sense the issue is appointed to be signaled at appropriate time. God’s choice to call it “Babylon” in the context of it’s destruction places the destruction of historical Babylon as it’s type. There we have the well known issue of the handwriting on the wall. It is reasonable therefore to consider the appearance of a handwriting on the wall as something to watch for. The handwriting on the wall is the appointed signal.

Therefore, a reason for anguish for other souls:

    In Jeremiah 9 there is
“20Hear, O women, the word of the LORD,
and let your ear receive the word of his mouth;
teach to your daughters a lament,
and each to her neighbor a dirge.
21For death has come up into our windows;
it has entered our palaces,
cutting off the children from the streets
and the young men from the squares.
22Speak: “Thus declares the LORD,
‘The dead bodies of men shall fall
like dung upon the open field,
like sheaves after the reaper,
and none shall gather them.’” ”     Each body is someone’s daughter or son. Could be someone’s husband or wife, father or mother. Even the family members don’t grasp the full tragedy, since most of those who die instantly go to eternal hell. For family members this is something that people don’t even bare to look at. But there is still hope since there is still time to leave. There is still time to show to nonbelievers, that The Living God is real after all, and knew our time and it’s geography thousands of years ago. His judgements are real, too.

     What cities should receive the warning:     
 
Europe:

Rome (confirmed)
London (confirmed)
Berlin (confirmed)
Istanbul (at least partly confirmed)
Moscow
Petersburg
Madrid (confirmed)
Amsterdam (confirmed)
Brussels (confirmed)
Vienna
Lisbon (confirmed)
Paris (confirmed)
Kiev

Americas:

New York (confirmed)
Washington
Mexico city
  Current (unconfirmed) understanding that I have is that in the United States the nuclear terrorist attacks happen in the greatest urban areas up to Miami and in the greatest metropolitan statistical areas up to Washington. (Both lists begin with New York.) Some strategic targets are possible besides these.


Asia:

Damascus (confirmed)
Jerusalem (unclear, number of Jerusalem in the list is possibly connected to prophecies about the Old City, not Revelation 18. It is hardly the case that God is telling people to leave Jerusalem.)
Whole Elam is in danger of destruction -this can mean Iran or Pakistan or both. This happens probably/possibly after the nuclear terrorist attacks. I believe that the nuclear warheads (missiles are not involved here) are from the beast of the Revelation (see Revelation 17:16) or his future co-rulers, and I do not believe he is from Pakistan. He does his best to hide the true origin of the nuclear warheads, and he is “skilled in intrigue”.
   For Damascus there is the prophecy Isaiah 17:1-3. Also the general law of blessing or cursing Israel is relevant here, as is also true for Iran.

There can be other cities besides these.
   

Jesus be with you and guide you to all truth

Tomi Laakso
Finland

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I hope the coming year finds you blessed and closer to the Lord Jesus Christ!

Blessings!

Quote from: Jemand on September 08, 2025, 01:39:25 AM

Why is Genesis 1-11 written in a genre of literature that is not found anywhere else in the Bible?

Because we don't meet the first Jew until Genesis 12?

First Hebrew that is 

Prayers were answered. The ultrasound came back all good and the Urologist doesn't need to see me for a year. Praise Jesus

Hamas made its implacable hatred clear by its charter provision that denies Israel's right to exist. Following its election and violent conflict with Fatah, it seized control and has not ceased harassing Israel with frequent rocket attacks and other acts of violence for the past 18 years. The cowardly attack on Oct 7 was a declaration of war to which Israel has responded decisively and with resolve. Whereas Gaza will ultimately continue to be a base of operations launched against Israel, Netanyahu's decision to re-occupy the area is sound and necessary. It essentially amounts to taking back control of land won in the Six Day War, but forfeited in 2005 for the sake of expediency.

Sadly, instead of funding Hamas' terrorist attacks, Iran could have invested money to facilitate the infrastructure and economic stability that would empower the Palestinians to better themselves. In fact, wealthy Arab nations could accommodate the Palestinians if they actually cared about them. (If there were a sincere commitment to peaceful co-existence that fostered peace, I'm sure the Israelis themselves would help). Yet, Hamas--duly elected by a majority, is in the driver's seat, and those who might co-exist with Israel if given a chance, are traveling companions with those who refuse to do so, and partakers of those consequences.

At the end of the day, I believe the current circumstances are interwoven into the tapestry of God's grand design, and will ultimately serve His will and purpose, despite any intervening stressful situations. Prophecy affirms that God's people are promised a glorious destination--though the journey there may be fraught with unpleasantness. It's a shame that so many useful idiots who reject the Bible are deceived into taking the wrong side. In the movie "Gladiator," Maximus makes a statement that emphasizes the lasting impact of our actions and choices: "What we do in life echoes in eternity."

It's very sad that Israel has little support in the international community. They simply cannot understand that a "two state" solution is suicide for Israel. In fact, it's a death kneel for the entire earth:

Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Germany, Cananda, and Portugal are all talking about recognizing a Palestinian state.

Sweden is asking the EU to stop all trade with Israel.

This is all happening this week.

These countries may not be sending soldiers to attack Israel, but they sure are providing tons of political cover to the entities that are.

You can't tell me that the Muslims are some apocalyptic force trying to destroy Israel while ignoring the "Christian" countries that are taking their side. It's not "Islam against Jews", it's "the world against the Jews", as it has always been. Sure, American Evangelical Christians are on Israel's side. But they're the only Christians that are, at least in appreciable numbers.

I actually agree with your statement "The world against the Jews" and I would expect this to mean you can't deny the possible apocalyptic ramifications of it.

Zec 12:2-3
Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

I believe that America is destined to turn it's back on Israel one day. The Obama/Biden machine gave us a small taste of that.
As far as the Europeans go, I only meant they weren't the ones invading Israel and murdering Jews (yet). However, I believe as well, that they will one day invade and join the Muslim world in attempting to destroy Israel. I say "attempt" because I believe that when the Lord Jesus Christ will return.


 

Quote from: Ta-An on July 10, 2025, 08:31:29 PM

My question is: How is the spirit-soul of the dead person housed before resurrection?

Jews believe that souls of the deceased dwell in the Garden of Eden, awaiting resurrection in the messianic era.

That's interesting. Is this in the Talmud?