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Messages - Athanasius
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« on: Today at 03:34:11 AM »
Seeing if I survive round 5 of layoffs.
Ouch.
Yep.
Dd you survive it?
Oh, this is not your awful sudden but sensible "cut once, deep, quickly" layoff. It's "let's drag it out over months". So I don't know, but so far at least.
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« on: Yesterday at 05:32:41 PM »
Seeing if I survive round 5 of layoffs.
Ouch.
Yep.
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« on: Yesterday at 07:44:52 AM »
Seeing if I survive round 5 of layoffs.
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« on: October 11, 2026, 05:29:23 PM »
Just got back from 'Other Mommy'. Eh... 6 / 10 ? Had the potential to be a lot better.
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« on: October 06, 2026, 05:47:25 PM »
I want to ask the question.
Rashi say anything about the 'gap theory' re: 1:1 -> 1:2?
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« on: September 16, 2026, 01:04:57 PM »
By this I mean, at what point did the Catholic church stray from what is considered authoritative Protestant dogma?
The early church fathers are universal, right? And Nicea is binding. I see medieval Christian philosophers quoted here sometimes.
Educate me.
It kinda depends. Luther (for example) wasn't necessarily taking issue with the underlying doctrine, but with the church's practice regarding a given practice (e.g., indulgences). And if we look before Luther, the East-West schism happened aroundish 1054. But that's the Orthodox, not the Protestants. For a more modern complaint, I think we could date Mary veneration back to the 3rd century at the latest. I think the 'Hail Mary' is attested to around the 11th century. As examples multiply (e.g. the Rosary around the 15th century), if you manage to find just the right Protestant, the answer is, "basically from the start". After all, when did "Scripture plus tradition" happen and not just "Scripture alone"? Then again, 'Sola Scriptura' has been taken to an extreme, because it would have been idiotic of Luther to suggest that 'plus tradition' didn't include 'here's how we understand the text traditionally'. His complaint was particular (the Pope too is subject to Scripture); the people I grew up around blew it up into a universal. I didn't grow up with Sola Scriptura, but Solo Scriptura. So you could go back to Luther if you want to be historically on point. If you want to apply Protestant dogma further back, then basically the whole of the development of the church after Peter is condemned by at least some modern Protestant dogma. Depending on which Protestant you ask.
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« on: September 14, 2026, 04:54:28 PM »
I regularly get jokes in my email. I got one today that is so bad I have to pass it along.
Why is dark spelled with a K and not a C?
I'll be back later with the answer, if nobody comes up with it sooner.
Because you can't see (C) in the dark!
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« on: September 09, 2026, 03:25:20 AM »
Sadly, it's not just the nationalists to whom I would not apply the term 'Christian'.
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« on: September 07, 2026, 04:34:15 AM »
I was stricken with sickness at age 4 and have walked with a severe limp since.
A JW once told me I am doomed because I am lame - a total misinterpretion of scripture.
I kicked him off my cloud.
What an ass. Well, when I talk about my daily exercise I don't mean hitting the gym 🫠
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« on: September 06, 2026, 02:35:24 PM »
So it's one thing to talk about heresy as almost an academic exercise -- "Oh you don't agree with Augustine? You must be one of those nasty Pelegians!"
LOL what
Yep -- there are entire denominations that will accuse a person of adopting the teachings of Pelegius wholesale if that person says they don't find Augustine's notion of "original sin" compelling. The logic goes, "You don't believe in ontic corruption?!? WHAT?! Oh, so then you must think a person can earn their own salvation!" That includes such controversial statements as, "Adam and Eve sinned prior to possessing some 'sin nature'; therefore, such a nature is not required to explain sin and in fact, adds nothing".
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« on: September 05, 2026, 05:59:06 AM »
Heresy away!
Get ready for it:
*I exist*
"You think, therefore you are."
It speaks to that fine separation between heresy as a set of propositions, and the heretic who is the person that subscribes to some set of propositions deemed heretical. That person then becomes anathema to a given community, because inevitably, holding to whatever those propositions are will manifest in the way that person lives their life. This becomes exceptionally not Christianity when what's considered heresy comes down to, "I heard you went to mass with your family last Sunday, you know they say Mary is equal to God don't you?" or, "I heard you trusted your doctors and went for chemotherapy, so why did you go up for Sunday morning prayer if you don't trust God"? or, "You don't need SSRIs, Jesus would have made you happy if you really believed". So it's one thing to talk about heresy as almost an academic exercise -- "Oh you don't agree with Augustine? You must be one of those nasty Pelegians!" As we all know, it's another to sit in a pew while the congregation all turns right to spit in the direction of the Catholic church across the street. Never mind the "gossip line", or was that prayer? And maybe there are places where it's obviously not heretical to teach people how to evangelise. But they'd consider it heresy to teach people that Jesus didn't spit at people, or demand the destruction of families in service to Him, or hold a low view of doctors, or the people finding some way to live with the circumstances they find themselves in. But I guess that's a sermon for a Sunday I'll likely never see.
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« on: September 04, 2026, 03:45:02 PM »
Heresy away!
Get ready for it: *I exist*
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« on: September 03, 2026, 05:56:24 PM »
You guys talking about heresy and you didn't even invite me? Sheesh.
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« on: August 25, 2026, 03:19:23 AM »
Playing a week of "Is it white coat syndrome or is it hypertension!" (What new ways can my body think of to try to kill me next).
Though it's been about 5 years since we last played this game. Weee.
I had a bp spike over 12 years ago, brought on by an event, which damaged a heart chamber. It was erroneously (later) diagnosed as a heart attack. I can now feel spikes triggered by stressful situations.
That's not so good  Is that just a thing now they need to be aware of, or future consequences yet unknown? This time is because I got sick last week, developed pulsatile tinnitus, which is they think caused by pressure / fluid in my ear and not anything else, but just to be safe, BP readings. I would expect I'm in the "you're fine but try to lose weight and eat more omega 3s" category.
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« on: August 25, 2026, 03:17:32 AM »
I gotchu.
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