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« on: December 21, 2023, 11:49:24 AM »
Praying for you as well...
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« on: November 01, 2023, 08:21:25 AM »
Mark 10:6 - But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh.
And the question is, when are a man and a woman married in the eyes of God?
My view and I am not certain -
I haven't found any word from God in Scripture it requires a ceremony as obligation. Needless to say it's wise and good to have one, ask God in the presence of people for a blessing of your marriage and have a party thereafter.
And so I think -
1. When a couple decides to go through life together and the love is sealed with sexual intercourse.
2. There are a couple of OT texts that even indicate situations of sexual intercourse is enough for God.
On [2] -
Deut 22:28-29 - If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days
Exodus 22:16 - If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride-price for her and make her his wife.
It seems to me the act of sexual intercourse is seen by God as a fuse between 2 souls that can't be broken, like being born again is a fuse between God and one of His creatures that can't be broken. As such it is meant.
Marriage is an ever returning topic and if I am asked for my opinion I like to give a correct answer.
I don't have a rock solid answer but in John 4:16-18 Jesus stated to the woman at the well that she was living (From the context it can be assumed sex was involved) with a man who was not her husband. Got Questions does a good job looking at the scripture involved... https://www.gotquestions.org/marriage-constitutes.html
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« on: October 19, 2023, 03:23:54 PM »
Let's sum up the conflict:
There are two sides.
You have Hamas, who wants to murder Jews.
And you have the Jews, who don't want to be murdered.
And neither side is willing to compromise.
This is why it's difficult to comprehend so many siding with Hamas against Israel. I'm baffled by the inner workings of the liberal/progressive mind.
Exactly, Hamas intentionally targeted a festival and homes close to the border. They did this to kill and abduct civilians quickly before armed IDF forces arrive. That's not even debatable.
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« on: October 19, 2023, 12:10:24 PM »
There is a question at the very beginning of this thread.
Ferris replied to this question...
The screen name of the person is Fe nris  David, Do you see bias as influencing the media in reporting news? I certainly do. Some news orgs are better than others at being objective. Since CNN & BBC were brought up, I see CNN showing a troubling amount of bias that I don't read anything from them other than to get a point of view of what most on the left think. I see the same from Fox News. Only time I would read Fox news is to find out what most on the right thinks. I have very little exposure to reporting from the BBC so I don't much to base opinion of them on.
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« on: October 12, 2023, 01:35:21 PM »
Howdy, and welcome Denise.
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« on: October 12, 2023, 07:46:03 AM »
All this lengthy post yet still dancing around and cannot refute what I quoted about Jesus' word.
No one is dancing. You've been given plenty of scriptural evidence and explanation that you just quickly dismissed. This is a Bible discussion forum, not meshak's authorized version discussion forum. I won't limit my understanding of God's Holy Word to your narrowed viewpoint.
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« on: October 11, 2023, 12:25:57 PM »
Jesus' Father is my God and Jesus is my Lord.[/b]
You dont seem to understand the word "Lord".
You still cannot refute Jesus' word of "His Father is His God".
Ok, let’s look at some more scripture to form a basis of “Lord” as can be found in the Bible. John the Baptist was preparing the way of the Lord. Matt 3:3
This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:
“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
make straight paths for him.As can be seen John was referring to Jesus. And here Jesus is referred to as Lord. 1 Cor 1:9
God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.Jesus is Lord and on this we agree. The Bible is clear that there is one Lord (Eph 4:5), as I’ve already shared. Is The Father Lord? The Bible states He is. Exodus 20:2
“I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Isaiah 41:13
For I am the Lord your God
who takes hold of your right hand
and says to you, Do not fear;
I will help you.
Deut 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.Notice that Lord and God are referred to together here. Whose name do we call on to be saved? Joel 2:32
And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved;
for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
there will be deliverance,
as the Lord has said,
even among the survivors
whom the Lord calls.Look at Isaiah 42:8 “I am the Lord; that is my name!
I will not yield my glory to another
or my praise to idols.Look Who is speaking here. God does not share the title of Lord. Jesus claimed the title I Am, He was worshipped, called Lord, & is our savior because… Philippians 2:6-8 He was the very nature of God And in Col 2:9 the fullness of deity dwells in Him Just as a note I won't be able to answer for a while.
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« on: October 11, 2023, 10:59:52 AM »
First, why dont you refute my quote of Jesus?
You guys have been skipping over and over.
You still have not answered this question plainly. Can you do so and provide scripture for your answer?
You guys have been skipping over and over.
This is what have been skipping:
This is what Jesus says:
John 20:17
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
I look at this with the whole of scripture in mind and not a single proof text. In the whole of scripture, Jesus often referred to the Father in the 3rd person, so this doesn’t seem out of the ordinary. Jesus in His humanity often deferred to the Father’s will as well. It seems normal in the whole of scripture of the Godhead to refer in human language in this manner. This is explained clearly in Philippians 2:5-11. Philippians 2:5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.So that brings me back to my first, still unanswered question to you. Is Jesus your Lord or is the Father your Lord?
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« on: October 11, 2023, 09:37:34 AM »
Isnt Jesus your Lord?
Yes, Jesus is my Lord and my Savoir.
Ephesians 4:4-5 says there is one Lord...
Is Jesus your Lord or is the Father your Lord?
You still have not answered this question plainly. Can you do so and provide scripture for your answer?
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« on: October 11, 2023, 09:32:52 AM »
then why don't you take heed of His word of "His God is His Father"? I see what you did there...Can you back up this accusation with what I've said or are you projecting to what you think I'll say later in this conversation? Let's be honest and let each other speak before jumping to accusations. There is no need to project what you think I'll say. If you think I may have a particular belief, ask and I'll do my best to answer. I'm not trying to win. I'm engaging with the sincere belief of speaking the truth. I ask you do the same, or I will quickly lose respect of your words. I'll start by stating that your assertion in this instance is correct as I do not agree that "His God is His Father". Now as has been asked. Please provide scripture for that statement.
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« on: October 11, 2023, 08:00:09 AM »
Isnt Jesus your Lord?
Yes, Jesus is my Lord and my Savoir. Ephesians 4:4-5 says there is one Lord... Is Jesus your Lord or is the Father your Lord?
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« on: October 05, 2023, 08:08:15 AM »
The belief that a person does not need Jesus at all, only the ten commandments, is certainly not a Christian idea.
Can you explain how it is not a logical one though?
It's not logical or well reasoned in the sense that meshak is quoting Jesus. Quoting one statement and creating dogma of a minimum requirement from that. Jesus said much more as ProDeo stated. The "rest of the story" is not being taken in account.
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« on: October 02, 2023, 07:47:57 AM »
The man on the middle cross said I could come.
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« on: August 30, 2023, 08:13:34 AM »
Howdy Saved! Glad you found the place!
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« on: August 14, 2023, 03:11:20 PM »
My wife had watched in through 3 or 4 times.
She finally got me to watch and it's worth the time for some good cringy laughs, meme's and quotes to use lol. It's probably one of my favorite TV series.
My wife told me we should skip the Todd Packer included episodes and we did after trying to get through the first he was in.
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