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General Category => In General => Topic started by: Sojourner on December 21, 2025, 05:49:51 PM
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I was pondering the implications of the 38.5 trillion dollar debt that the US has incurred to date. It's estimated that a stack of 38.5 trillion one-dollar bills would be over 2 and half million miles high! That is mind-boggling, and places that astronomical figure into perspective.
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Since there is no small government party in the offing that would reduce spending, let alone pay down the debt, I'm going to have to respond with "You ain't seen nothing yet".
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Oh, I agree that things are going to get much worse. As resilient as the US economy is, we're nearing the tipping point. As one of millions of retirees who depend on Social Security--forecast to become insolvent within 10 years unless Congress acts--I'm not optimistic about the future.
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Food
Land on which to grow food
Seeds and non-powered tools
Water source
Fuel/energy source
Gold and silver
Books
Self-propelled Tiny ingots of lead wrapped in copper and delivery systems thereof
If the world rocks on and US dollars and the current system remain intact, I’m good
I’m not betting on it. I’m not abandoning the current system but I’m not putting more into it except what it returns
All other investment dollars are going into the list above
Next investment is the land with water source and defensible topography
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The trouble is that even with your own water source, unless you have the spring rising on your land someone can get to the water upstream from you and flush you out that way.
It's remarkable to think that the interest on the national debt will soon (if it hasn't already) go north of a trillion dollars every year. That's $1,000,000,000,000 every year just to service the debt, without paying back a dime of it. That means the government will be spending nearly 2 million dollars every minute just to pay interest.
And we all know who's really paying when "the government is spending".
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If you haven't checked out the national debt clock lately, they've added a few features, like tariff revenue, etc. Seeing the debt's rapidly increasing numbers in real in real time is an eye-opener.
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
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tariff revenue
Which the resident genius in the White House thinks is paid by foreign countries, when it is in fact paid for by American consumers.
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tariff revenue
Which the resident genius in the White House thinks is paid by foreign countries, when it is in fact paid for by American consumers.
Only by consumers buying certain products.
Labor and fuel costs are a bigger issue
Well, along with taxes at the state and local level
The USA is not ready to deal with a shrinking labor force and what that means in terms of tax revenues at any level
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tariff revenue
Which the resident genius in the White House thinks is paid by foreign countries, when it is in fact paid for by American consumers.
In by consumers buying certain products.
It's hard not to be hit by any tariffs when they are applied to primary resources like lumber, steel and aluminum.
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tariff revenue
Which the resident genius in the White House thinks is paid by foreign countries, when it is in fact paid for by American consumers.
In by consumers buying certain products.
It's hard not to be hit by any tariffs when they are applied to primary resources like lumber, steel and aluminum.
Agreed
Finding domestic sources is difficult.
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tariff revenue
Which the resident genius in the White House thinks is paid by foreign countries, when it is in fact paid for by American consumers.
In by consumers buying certain products.
It's hard not to be hit by any tariffs when they are applied to primary resources like lumber, steel and aluminum.
Of course it is, you just have to avoid building anything or doing other superfluous stuff, like eating anything that comes in a can, or buying anything made of wood or metal. Simples.
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Rand Paul recently released his annual Festivus Report, uncovering 1.6 trillion dollars in foolish waste. He also painted a sobering picture of the spiraling debt which will continue to increase: "The Congressional Budget Office predicts we will add an average of $23.9 trillion in debt annually for the next decade. The U.S. government will add over $6.53 billion of debt every single day for the next ten years," Paul said. "We borrow over $272 million every hour, we borrow $4.54 million every minute, and we borrow over $75,000 every second."
Fiscal hawks like Paul are few and far between. Most elected officials do one thing well: spend taxpayer money, even before it's been earned -- most finding ways to become millionaires while in office. They amass power over the course of decades, doing a job that was never intended to be a career. It's truly sad that we've come to expect corruption and abuse of power in our elected officials. Thankfully, one day this planet will be ruled by One who is holy, just and perfect. Until then, we can only continue to vote for the lesser of two evils, electing those we know will disappoint us.
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Rand Paul recently released his annual Festivus Report, uncovering 1.6 trillion dollars in foolish waste.
Nobody cares.
Cutting spending is politically unpopular, so nobody wants to do it.
Spending like drunken sailors makes voters happy. And by the time the bill comes due, the politicians who voted for the spending will be long gone. So why not kick the can down the road?
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True. But the worse we endure now the more blessed and happy we'll be in the future kingdom. It doesn't make things easier in the here and now, but at least when can look forward to a glorious future.