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Bible Talk => Theology => Topic started by: Titus on February 14, 2023, 01:51:16 PM
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The Truth of the matter is that God the Father actually IS Jesus Christ.
The Bible is rock-solid on this Fact with verses from Isaiah 42-45 as well as many from the New Testament that testify to this Biblical Fact.
The Bible from Genesis to Revelation makes the case that Jesus Christ is not only God, but He is the Father Incarnate.
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Sorry but that just isnt true.
How can the Father speak to the Son if they are the same person? How can the Son obey the will of the Father if they are the same person. How can God say on the Mount of Transfiguration "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased" if they are the same person.
Sorry. Jesus is certainly God, but He is not the Father Incarnate. He is the everlasting, ever-existing 2nd person of the Godhead incarnated in the hypostatic union as the theoanthropos, the God/man, Jesus.
Scripture is clear that there is an obvious person/subject distinction in the interactions of Father/Son/Holy Spirit.
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Sorry but that just isnt true.
How can the Father speak to the Son if they are the same person?
Easily. God is capable of every single thing you believe He is not.
With God, anything is possible.
Matt. 19:26
God is omni-everything.
Jer. 23:24How can the Son obey the will of the Father if they are the same person.
Are you even trying here? That makes it very easy. Do you not obey your own will?How can God say on the Mount of Transfiguration "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased" if they are the same person.
How can He not?Sorry. Jesus is certainly God, but He is not the Father Incarnate. He is the everlasting, ever-existing 2nd person of the Godhead incarnated in the hypostatic union as the theoanthropos, the God/man, Jesus.
Scripture is clear that there is an obvious person/subject distinction in the interactions of Father/Son/Holy Spirit.
You trins just don't get it.
A Biblical concept does not even approach being sound until it "EXISTS IN SCRIPTURE". The entire Christendom world is awaiting the production of a passage, chapter or book from the inspired Word of God that contains ANY discussion WHATSOEVER about the dynamics of the concept of God being three people.
Read carefully: It ... doesn't ... exist.
On the contrary, there is MOUNDS of evidence for Christ being God Almighty. It is everywhere.
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The Truth of the matter is that God the Father actually IS Jesus Christ.
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matthew 24:36)
Please explain.
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The Truth of the matter is that God the Father actually IS Jesus Christ.
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matthew 24:36)
Please explain.
Jesus' abilities while in the flesh were limited, just as ours are.
God humbled Himself, He made Himself less, when He incarnated. He had to be capable of temptation and failure in order to accomplish perfection in the flesh or else why even incarnate? Why not just show up on the scene and wipe out all evil?
God had/has a plan and who are we to question that plan? He did what He did because that's what He did.
It is what it is.
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Jesus' abilities while in the flesh were limited, just as ours are.
God humbled Himself, He made Himself less, when He incarnated.
And yet God was also in heaven. A different entity. You see?
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Titus has written elsewhere that she prefers the term 'twinity', which itself implies a distinction between Father and Son. But Titus is more akin to a Modalist in practice, than another '-inity' of some kind.
The entire Christendom world is awaiting the production of a passage, chapter or book from the inspired Word of God that contains ANY discussion WHATSOEVER about the dynamics of the concept of God being three people.
A response in kind:
"With God, anything is possible".
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The Truth of the matter is that God the Father actually IS Jesus Christ.
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matthew 24:36)
Please explain.
Ok, when an orthodox Jew has to refute the claims of a non-trinitarian professing "Christian" as to the philosophical and logical arguments for the distinction in personhood between God the Father and Jesus, it's time for me to commit sudoku.
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OP is banned. Closing.