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THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?
Revelation 16:v.13 to 16
1 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the False Prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Ar - mag - eddon.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Well, all Christian/believer know that the battle of AR(heaven)-Mag(Magog)-Eddon(means red) is against three UNCLEAN SPIRITS like frogs. Why frogs? I searched deeply an explanation for this biblical mystery, and by the Word of GOD what I found is the follow:
In general, frogs are amphibians vertebrate animals that live in the aquatic environment and on the terrestrial environment. But is it the same in the spiritual environment? Yes, it is.
1 - THE AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT OF THE EVIL SPIRITS LIKE FROGS
Revelation 17:v.15 - And the angel saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. NOTE: Except the TRUE CHRISTIANS/BELIEVERS, all the peoples of all the nations are leaded, and dominated, and guided by the THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS like frogs. TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE.
That said, we can see by the verse 15 above the aquatic environment of these three spirits of demons like frogs which guide the peoples or rule nations of all tongues in whole earth, through all kind of devilish systems, as religious systems as the idolater Catholicism, and the esoteric Judaism, and spiritism, budhism, islamism, among others), and also political systems, and military systems, and social and cultural systems, among others systems. In fact, Satan goes to and fro and from walking up and down among them.
2 - THE TERRESTRIAL ENVIRONMENT OF THE EVIL SPIRITS LIKE FROGS
FIRST we need to understand that Israel is an island among the waters (Gentile nations) or in the middle of the sea, as is described above in according the Scriptures. Israel is the earth, a dry land, Genesis 1:v.10 3rd Day- or still the clay-Isaiah 64:v.8- a dry land surrounded by water on all sides or, by allegory, surrounded by the Gentile nations. Remember, even Isaiah prophesized saying:
Isaiah 41:v.1-2 -
1 - Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew their strength: let them come near; then let them speak: let us come near together to Judgment.
2 Who raised up the righteous man from the east, called him to his foot, gave the nations before him, and made him rule over kings? he gave them as the dust to his Sword-Revelation 2:v.26 to 28-, and as driven stubble to his bow. (bow-Revelation 6:v.2)
That said, there is no doubt that Israel is the earth, the dry land -Genesis 1:v.10-3rd Day - , with its great city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, yeah, Israel, the earth, the dry land, was and is also dominated by the three unclean spirits like frogs, which infested the nation of idolatries, and wichcraft,spiritism/esoterism , idolaters and spiritist peoples or esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist peoples that follow the esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism, and they are waiting their messiah who must manifest himself soon (he was born decades ago and must manifest himself soon-2 Thes.2:v.6), and he will be one of the heads of the MONSTRUOUS and SATANIC Antichrist's Empire together the Beast of sea-Daniel 2:v.40 to 43 and Revelation 13:v.1 to 10-the Beast of sea- and Revelation 13:v.11 to 18-the Beast of the earth.
These are the spiritual ENVIRONMENT that the GOD's people will see in the last week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 that may be within these current dec ade of 2020-2030.
Be careful and get ready
Revelation 16:v.15 - KJV
15 - Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Revelation 2:v.25 to 29 KJV
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning star.
29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
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Hypnotoad is trying to hypnotize us
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Protect me, Fenris.
You're the one with the Jewish Space Laser...
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THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?
Revelation 16:v.13 to 16
All kidding aside, I think it's an interesting and legitimate question. Why frogs? Hmmmm...
I think you're right if the suggestion is that under the Law amphibians were considered unclean--at least I think so.
I think that most of the creatures that were not to be eaten symbolized unclean habits that pagans engage in. Pagans do not have a proper standard of right and wrong in the eyes of God, largely because they derive their views of right and wrong from the vantage point of their own selfish interests--not the interests of the Creator.
But I don't know why frogs specifically were used as the symbol of something that deceives, anymore than I know why a serpent was used in the Garden of Eden to deceive Adam and Eve? These creatures obviously symbolized something that is destructive to our conscience, rendering ambivalent our sense of right and wrong.
Perhaps we think it is okay to get our advice from a snake? Perhaps we think we can adopt our beliefs from something that appears like a frog? Probably it would be best to get our information from a scientist, doctor, or better yet--a theologian? ;)
Society today is trying to confuse truth. Genders are getting confused, and Religion is getting confused. Do we tolerate other religions, or do we ban them?
I don't think God is confused. He expects us to listen to Him, and not to any false representation of things that should otherwise be clear to our conscience. We should not listen to the Antichrist, his False Prophet, nor to Satan himself. Kind of goes without saying, and yet it needs to be said!
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Protect me, Fenris.
You're the one with the Jewish Space Laser...
Too late
ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
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Protect me, Fenris.
You're the one with the Jewish Space Laser...
Too late
ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
Don't worry, my friend. Quickly jump into a warm bath of holy water, and you'll be fine in the morning... I promise--no more frogs!
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All kidding aside, I think it's an interesting and legitimate question. Why frogs? Hmmmm...
I think you're right if the suggestion is that under the Law amphibians were considered unclean
I'm sympathetic to this reading. Having looked into it, the Greek word is "βάτραχοι " which does indeed mean "frog" in ancient Greek. A Hebrew language analogue would be something like "שֶּׁ֖רֶץ" "Sheretz" which means "creeping crawling" or something like that. See Lev 11 for the details-
“‘Every creature that moves along the ground is to be regarded as unclean; it is not to be eaten. You are not to eat any creature that moves along the ground, whether it moves on its belly or walks on all fours or on many feet; it is unclean. Do not defile yourselves by any of these creatures. Do not make yourselves unclean by means of them or be made unclean by them. I am the Lord your God; consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am holy. Do not make yourselves unclean by any creature that moves along the ground. I am the Lord, who brought you up out of Egypt to be your God; therefore be holy, because I am holy."
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well the real reason is as follows....
in trumpet 5/6 we see evil spirits upon the land up from the earth. in the 5/6 vial wee the same.
2 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
the reason frogs are used as they live in the rivers and ponds adjacent. but we see the river dried up thus frogs come up. and being involved in a previous plague.
And the river shall bring forth frogs abundantly, which shall go up and come into thine house, and into thy bedchamber, and upon thy bed, and into the house of thy servants, and upon thy people, and into thine ovens, and into thy kneadingtroughs:
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well the real reason is as follows....
If you knew the answer, why you didn't just say this in your first post.
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THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?
Revelation 16:v.13 to 16
All kidding aside, I think it's an interesting and legitimate question. Why frogs? Hmmmm...
I think you're right if the suggestion is that under the Law amphibians were considered unclean--at least I think so.
I think that most of the creatures that were not to be eaten symbolized unclean habits that pagans engage in. Pagans do not have a proper standard of right and wrong in the eyes of God, largely because they derive their views of right and wrong from the vantage point of their own selfish interests--not the interests of the Creator.
But I don't know why frogs specifically were used as the symbol of something that deceives, ...
Hi Randy
My point interpreting the Word of GOD - Revelation 16:v.13 - the Word is GOD - is not materially but spiritually, anyway Deuteronomy 14:v.9-10 may clarify you if amphibians are considered unclean or not. The Word of GOD speaks higher than my own words.
OK. It's a mystery, no? Well, let us analyze deeply and interpret the Word of GOD - the Word is GOD.
Analyzing deeply this mystery according GOD's perspective, we must focus first that for GOD the Father there are two kinds of peoples in the Planet Earth, as follow:
1 - THE GENTILE PEOPLES OR GENTILE NATIONS
The Gentiles peoples or Gentile nations cover the Planet Earth; JESUS revealed by His angel that these peoples/ nations are as a great sea "where the whore sitteth"-Revelation 17:v.15.
Come hither; I will shew unto thee the Judgment of the Great Whore that sitteth upon many waters(peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues) - Revelation 17:v.1. Comparing Revelation with prophecies of Daniel: Dan.7:v.2-3 : -
2 - I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the Great Sea.
3 - And four great Beasts came up from the Sea, diverse one from another.
Interpreting the biblical revelations of the above Word of GOD, the Great sea -Gentile nations- is also called the face of the abyss, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters (peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues) or upon the face of the sea(the abyss).
2-THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL - SEED OF ABRAHAM - SEE THE DIFFERENCE OF PEOPLE
Within the Great Sea, Israel is an island, Israel is the clay-Isaiah 64:v.8, or the DRY LAND - Genesis 1:v.10 - third Day or around 2.500 years after Adam - was created the nation of Israel- the dry land-the earth(small letter), after the departure from Egypt to the promised land, through Moses.
But I don't know why frogs specifically were used as the symbol of something that deceives, anymore than I know why a serpent was used in the Garden of Eden to deceive Adam and Eve? These creatures obviously symbolized something that is destructive to our conscience, rendering ambivalent our sense of right and wrong.
Perhaps we think it is okay to get our advice from a snake? Perhaps we think we can adopt our beliefs from something that appears like a frog? Probably it would be best to get our information from a scientist, doctor, or better yet--a theologian? ;)
Society today is trying to confuse truth. Genders are getting confused, and Religion is getting confused. Do we tolerate other religions, or do we ban them?
I don't think God is confused. He expects us to listen to Him, and not to any false representation of things that should otherwise be clear to our conscience. We should not listen to the Antichrist, his False Prophet, nor to Satan himself. Kind of goes without saying, and yet it needs to be said!
The problem is not the animal itself, the frogs, the problem are the three unclean spirits like frogs, they ARE SPIRITS OF DEMONS that speak by the MOUTH of the Dragon, and by the MOUTH of the Beast, and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet(the false messiah, the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist false messiah - John 5:v.43-47 and Revelation 13:v.11-18). The Word of GOD says: Revelation 16:v.14- They are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth (10 kings of the earth-Israel-dry land) and of the whole world (whole world of Devil, ALL Gentile nations of the whole Earth-the Planet), to gather them to this battle -BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON- of this Great Day of God Almighty.
Well, the Word of GOD used frogs specifically because of their nature and hability to live in the water and in the dry land-the earth, understand?
Thus, spiritually the three unclean spirits like frogs have possessed and as ruler they guide ALL the religious Gentile nations(the Great Sea), and also the religious nation of Israel separated of the Gentile nations, it means the three unclean spirits like frogs live in the sea(they live within the Gentile peoples) and in the earth-dry land(they live in the people of Israel, as being an isle in the great sea). By analogy, it is SIMILAR the spiritual environment after the rebellion in Eden. TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE
That said, we can see by the above Word of GOD the aquatic environment of these three spirits of demons like frogs which rule and guide the peoples or nations of all tongues in whole earth, through all kind of devilish systems, as religious systems as the idolater Catholicism, and the esoteric Judaism, and spiritism, budhism, islamism, among others), and also political systems, and military systems, and social and cultural systems, among others systems. In fact, Satan goes to and fro and from walking up and down among them.
Jerusalem is the great city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, yeah, Israel, the earth, the dry land, was and is also dominated by the three unclean spirits like frogs, which infested the nation of idolatries, and wichcraft, and esoterism /spiritism.
The three unclean spirits lie frogs rule and guide the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist people that follow the esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism, and they are waiting their messiah who must manifest himself soon (he was born decades ago and must manifest himself soon-2 Thes.2:v.6), and he will be one of the heads of the MONSTRUOUS and SATANIC Antichrist's Empire together the Beast of sea-Daniel 2:v.40 to 43 and Revelation 13:v.1 to 10-the Beast of sea- and Revelation 13:v.11 to 18-the Beast of the earth.
These are the spiritual ENVIRONMENT that the GOD's people - the TRUE CHRISTIANS/BELIEVERS will see in the last week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 that may be within these current decade of 2020-2030, the end of the times.
Be careful and get ready
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THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?
Thanks for the explanation. My own take might extend part of your view a little more. I agree that "seas" refer to "peoples," and "the land" to Israel, at least initially. But as I see it, what God did with Israel was a pattern for the world to follow. God had every intention of beginning with Israel and expanding to the whole world.
So what started with the Mediterranean Sea and Israel has now expanded to be the 5 Oceans and the 7 Continents. The "land," therefore, no longer refers exclusively to Israel, but rather, to European Civilization, where the 4th Beast of Dan 7 evolved. The "seas" likely includes all of the oceans of the world into which European Civilization has spread.
I see Harlot Babylon as Rome, where European Civilization started as the 4th Beast. And it has continued well beyond the fall of Rome in 476 AD, and even well beyond the fall of Constantinople in 1453 AD. Rome was Christianized under Constantine and Theodosius, and eventually became the Holy Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire. The Orthodox and Catholic branches of the old Roman Church roughly represents the 2 old branches of the Eastern and Western Roman Empire.
Anyway, thanks for your perspective. I often find some commonality in the positions of other Christians. The use of the symbols "frogs" indicate a plague of paganism, which has seeped into European Civilization, and will eventually draw people into the judgment that God is bringing against the Antichrist.
I love water and a variety of bodies of water. I've lived on a lake, had property on a river, and now live with a filtered view of the bay. But lacking any of that in the past, I dug ponds, both garden ponds and earth ponds. And one thing is striking about them--they attract frogs--lots of them!
I think the lesson is that sin proliferates in the world. And this process won't be halted until the Messiah comes with God's Kingdom. Amen.
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THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?
Thanks for the explanation. My own take might extend part of your view a little more. I agree that "seas" refer to "peoples," and "the land" to Israel, at least initially. But as I see it, what God did with Israel was a pattern for the world to follow. God had every intention of beginning with Israel and expanding to the whole world.
Your interpretation is perfect, very perfect. See what the prophet says: Isaiah 5
1 Now will I sing to my wellbeloved a song of my beloved touching his vineyard. My wellbeloved hath a vineyard in a very fruitful hill:
2 And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes.
3 And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard.
4 What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?
5 And now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up; and break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down:
6 And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.
7 For the vineyard of the Lord of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.
8 Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!
9 In mine ears said the Lord of hosts, Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, even great and fair, without inhabitant.
10 Yea, ten acres of vineyard shall yield one bath, and the seed of an homer shall yield an ephah.
11 Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!
12 And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.
13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
15 And the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty man shall be humbled, and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled:
16 But the Lord of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.
I stop here at this verse 16, but the parable of the vineyard continues to the verse 30.
May our Lord GOD bless us and give us wisdom to interpret His holy Word in Spirit and Truth.
Amen.
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Frogs, a poem by Red Skelton, read by Clem Kadiddlehopper
Frogs is recited to the cadence of Boots, a famous poem by Rudyard Kipling
Frogs. Frogs. Frogs, they are everywhere.
Frogs. Frogs. Frogs croaking fill the air.
Louder. Louder. Louder is their blasting blare
and there’s no silence in the night.
Frogs. Frogs, croaks heard three miles away.
Five. six. seven beyond that they say.
Frogs. Frogs multiplying more each day
and there’s no silence in the night.
Red Skelton - Frogs poem
Frogs. Frogs don’t try to seek them out.
Frogs. Frogs. Frogs hiding all about.
Grab. Grab. Grab their throats and wring them out.
’cause there’s no silence in the night.
Frogs. Frogs their good is only bad.
Flirting. Flirting. Flirting on their lily pad.
Mom. Mom. Mom says no, but you know Dad.
and there’s no silence in the night.
Frogs. Frogs don’t you know the strain?
Frogs. Frogs. Please, please, please refrain
and listen [croak, croak] there they go again. Frogs. Frogs
and there’s no silence in the night.
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I couldn't stop laughing either! ;) Frogs, frogs... I built myself an earth pond because there was no water on our property. Actually, I built two, because the permit allowed for a large pond, and I decided, due to the terrain, just to build two smaller ones.
Well, I was anxiously waiting for...frogs. When I 1st moved out into the wilderness/country, I learned to love to hear the peepers in the Springtime. But my new ponds got nothing.
My previous pond on my previous property had a series of bullfrogs ready to jump as I walked around the pond, one after another. But this new pond--nothing!
So I hiked down the highway and found a pool that had a big bullfrog near it. I captured it and took it to my new pond, where it proceeded to leave and seemingly never return.
But later that year, and in succeeding years, I think that big bullfrog must've come back and called for some companions, because suddenly I had bullfrogs everywhere. Then I learned how those bullfrogs eat all the peepers, fish, and anything small enough to gulp down.
I had put some fish in that pond, and they disappeared. But I think it was the green heron that got 'em. I chased away the Great Blue Heron that stealthily approached my little garden pond.
Well, I don't encourage frogs anymore. Don't need to. Not sure I should! I have no idea why I'm telling you this? Have a nice day! ;)
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THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?
I see Harlot Babylon as Rome, where European Civilization started as the 4th Beast. And it has continued well beyond the fall of Rome in 476 AD, and even well beyond the fall of Constantinople in 1453 AD. Rome was Christianized under Constantine and Theodosius, and eventually became the Holy Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire. The Orthodox and Catholic branches of the old Roman Church roughly represents the 2 old branches of the Eastern and Western Roman Empire.
Perfect. In the light of the Word of GOD, what you above said is inserted in impressive and perfection of Daniel's prophecy, chapter 2, regarding the two legs of iron of the Nebuchadnezzar's statue.
Verse 33 - His legs of iron, ... In fact, as you above described, the fourth Kingdom - the Roman Empire - is figured by the TWO LEGS OF IRON of the great statue, by allegory the two legs of iron mean the division of the Roman Empire in TWO parts as you commented.
That is an IMPORTANT DETAIL of the Daniel's prophecy - The two legs representing:
1- The Roman Empire of Western that lasted from 395 BC to 476AD:
2- The Bizantine Roman Empire that lasted from 330AD-1.453AD.
Both above kingdoms were DISSOLVED completely, practically both empires were dissolved over time AND THEIR INHABITANTS scattered among nations. Each one of these two Roman empires-two legs of iron - were transformed into a SPECIFIC and distincts branches, i.e. in two religious Powers until today, until the current time, as follow:
1 - Roman Catholic Church ruled by the Beast of sea- the Papacy . around 266 Popes were elected in these two last millennia, upon which rides the great Whore, the Roman Catholic Church. (The former Roman Empire of Western - 395 BC-476 AD)
2 - The Orthodox Christians (the former Bizantine Roman Empire from 330AD-1.453AD)
As we can see, the above EVENTS describe the LITERAL and complete fulfillment of Daniel's interpretation until de two legs of iron. Now ow it remains to fulfill the prophetic revelation of the statue's feet and toes(10 toes), part of potters' clay, and part of iron.
But wait, furthermore, the Verse 33 still reveals: His legs of iron, and the feet are part of iron and part of clay.
Now, even in this current time, we are living exactly the period of time regarding to the two feet and toes of Nebuchadnezzar's statue, it is in this time that will be established the fifth and last universal Kingdom prophesied by Daniel 2:v.41-43. - Get ready -
Verses 41 to 43 reveal:
41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong (iron), and partly broken (clay).
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
OK, let us be prepared for the establishment of the FIFTH Universal Kingdom in the current time between TWO strong Beasts, as follow:
1- The Man Beast of sea (iron) - Revelation 13:v.1 to 10; and
2 - the Man Beast of the earth (clay) like a lamb(a false lamb),but he speaks as Dragon-Revelation 13:v.11 to 18.
Daniel 2:v.34-35
34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
The above verses 34-35 show us how will be THE END OF THE WORLD and the TIME OR MOMENT OF JESUS COMING, as follow:
Daniel 2:v.44-45
44 And in the days of these kings (iron and clay-in tw shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
Anyway, thanks for your perspective. I often find some commonality in the positions of other Christians. The use of the symbols "frogs" indicate a plague of paganism, which has seeped into European Civilization, and will eventually draw people into the judgment that God is bringing against the Antichrist.
I think the lesson is that sin proliferates in the world. And this process won't be halted until the Messiah comes with God's Kingdom. Amen.
The world has today almost 8 billions of inhabitants;How many true Christians are there among this sea of people? Only GOD-JESUS knows, and He will show the difference between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth GOD and him that serveth Him not. They shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Malachi 3:v.17-18
Behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts. Malachi 4:v.1-3.
That said, in this sea of people, EXCEPT the true Christians/believers there is a gigantic population of unclean spirits like frogs multiplying more each day, they are everywhere croaking fill the air with the sinful sound thet get out of their mouth, there is not silence in the blackness of the darkness, their good is only bad. They will go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to this battle of this great Day of God Almighty, Day of the battle of Armageddon.
JESUS warned, saying: Behold, I come as a thief.
The call is starting and whoever is ready will go to meet the groom. Amen.
Get ready
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Get ready
What does this mean. Get ready for what?
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The attack if the Jewish Space Laser Patrol…
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Get ready
What does this mean. Get ready for what?
More praise persecution and worship music from the Newsboys?
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Somebody’s been reading the Babylon bee
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I think the danger the brother speaks of comes from the book of Revelation itself. When we accept the status quo in this world, we may not realize that the water is being brought to a boil.
Yes, you got it. The frog is slowly being boiled. ;)
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Get ready
What does this mean. Get ready for what?
I suppose you know also that in this time, in this last days, we are living perilous times, no? The world has today almost 8 billions of inhabitants; How many true Christians are there among this sea of people? Only GOD-JESUS knows, and He will show the difference between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth GOD and him that serveth Him not.
In this sea of people, EXCEPT the true Christians/believers there is a gigantic population of unclean spirits like frogs multiplying more each day, they are everywhere croaking fill the air with the sinful sound thet get out of their MOUTH(Revelation 16:v.13), there is not silence in the blackness of the darkness, their good is only and only bad, so bad. They will go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to this battle of this great Day of God Almighty, Day of the battle of Armageddon. Revelation 16:v.13-16: -
JESUS warned, saying: Behold, I come as a thief.
Get ready
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Exactly how does an unclean spirit reproduce?
Unclean spirits are fallen angels
Satan can’t create
So number of fallen angels/unclean spirits is a fixed number
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Get ready
For what? You haven't answered the question.
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Exactly how does an unclean spirit reproduce?
How does an unclean spirit reproduce? For example Matthew 23:v.15 - JESUS said: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
How the sons of GOD are reproduced? JESUS said: John 3:v.5-6
5 - Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 1:v.11-13
JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not.
12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Unclean spirits are fallen angels
Satan can’t create
So number of fallen angels/unclean spirits is a fixed number
About the three unclean spirits like frogs -A SATANIC TRINITY- , they ARE SPIRITS OF DEMONS that speak by the MOUTH of the Dragon, and by the MOUTH of the Beast, and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet(the false messiah, the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist false messiah - John 5:v.43-47 and Revelation 13:v.11-18). The Word of GOD says: Revelation 16:v.14- They are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth (10 kings of the earth-Israel-dry land) and of the whole world (whole world of Devil, ALL Gentile nations of the whole Earth-the Planet), to gather them to this battle -BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON- of this Great Day of God Almighty.
Well, the Word of GOD used frogs specifically because of their nature and hability to live in the water and in the dry land-the earth, understand?
Thus, spiritually the three unclean spirits like frogs have possessed and as ruler they guide ALL the religious Gentile nations(the Great Sea), and also the religious nation of Israel separated of the Gentile nations, it means the three unclean spirits like frogs live in the sea(they live within the Gentile peoples) and in the earth-dry land(they live in the people of Israel, as being an isle in the great sea). By analogy, it is SIMILAR the spiritual environment after the rebellion in Eden. TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE
That said, we can see by the above Word of GOD the aquatic environment of these three spirits of demons like frogs which rule and guide the peoples their followers even the nations of all tongues in whole earth, through all kind of devilish systems, as religious systems as the idolater Catholicism, and the esoteric Judaism, and spiritism, budhism, islamism, among others), and also political systems, and military systems, and social and cultural systems, among others systems. In fact, Satan goes to and fro and from walking up and down among them.
Jerusalem is the great city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, yeah, Israel, the earth, the dry land, was and is also dominated by the three unclean spirits like frogs, which infested the nation of followerd of idolatries, and wichcraft, and esoterism /spiritism, all them PRODUCED by the spirits like frogs.
The three unclean spirits of frogs rule and guide the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist people that follow the esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism, and they are waiting their messiah who must manifest himself soon (he was born decades ago and must manifest himself soon-2 Thes.2:v.6), and he will be one of the heads of the MONSTRUOUS and SATANIC Antichrist's Empire together the Beast of sea-Daniel 2:v.40 to 43 and Revelation 13:v.1 to 10-the Beast of sea- and Revelation 13:v.11 to 18-the Beast of the earth.
These are the spiritual ENVIRONMENT that the GOD's people - the TRUE CHRISTIANS/BELIEVERS will see in the last week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 that may be within these current decade of 2020-2030, the end of the times.
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Stream of consciousness vibes right here.
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Get ready
For what? You haven't answered the question.
Because the great Dragon will be cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world -RULED BY HIM- : he will be cast out into the earth, and his angels will also be cast out with him. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time.
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So...what am I getting ready for?
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So...what am I getting ready for?
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in this evil day (the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day), and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with Truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the Sword of the Spirit - Hebrews 4:v.12-13 - , which is the Word of God: - The WORD is GOD -
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
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11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Why, what's the devil going to do?
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So...what am I getting ready for?
death. thrown into a fire pit. just like the unsaved are......remember to the world at this time good appears evil and vice versa.
the king made an image
6 And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
you can do it my friend, .........
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11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Why, what's the devil going to do?
Though it be very hard to interpret and understanding biblical alegories, anyway we must preach Revelation literally and search to translate what they mean like the parables of our Lord JESUS Christ.
Revelation 11:v.15 and 18:
15 - The kingdoms of this world (the Devil's world) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. (The Word of GOD is speaking about the Universal GOD's Kingdom)
18 - And the nations were (will be) angry, and thy wrath (GOD's WRATH) is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.
Revelation 12:v.16 to 21KJV
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls(all the fowls? I would like to know they all, the TRUE CHRISTIANS to which the loud voice are speaking) that fly in the midst of heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:v.3 and Phil.3:v.20-21), Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; (HALELLUJAH! The Word made flesh-JESUS-is a great GOD)
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. (The hosts of Satan will be defeated and destroyed as we can see in Revelation 6:v. 10 to 17)
19 And I saw the Beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the Beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the Beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the Sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Get ready
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The Apocalypse is not allegory.
It is written in the apolcalptic genre, which uses many symbols and figurative language, most based on the Old Testament, but it is not a parable or to read like one reads Pilgrim's Progress.
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The Apocalypse is not allegory.
It is written in the apolcalptic genre, which uses many symbols and figurative language, most based on the Old Testament, but it is not a parable or to read like one reads Pilgrim's Progress.
OK. What matters is to interpret truly the Scriptures. Revelation 19:v.17 above says: "And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls..."
The verse above shows an angel speaking with fowls and standing in the sun. How could an angel, standing in the sun, speak to the fowls (speaking to the fowls?) flying so below from him? Literally/materially is impossible to explain this event. Who are these beings? What really the Word of GOD is revealing for us and for our understanding?
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So...what am I getting ready for?
death. thrown into a fire pit.
Psalm 27: A Psalm of David. The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
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The Apocalypse is not allegory.
It is written in the apolcalptic genre, which uses many symbols and figurative language, most based on the Old Testament, but it is not a parable or to read like one reads Pilgrim's Progress.
OK. What matters is to interpret truly the Scriptures. Revelation 19:v.17 above says: "And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls..."
The verse above shows an angel speaking with fowls and standing in the sun. How could an angel, standing in the sun, speak to the fowls (speaking to the fowls?) flying so below from him? Literally/materially is impossible to explain this event. Who are these beings? What really the Word of GOD is revealing for us and for our understanding?
the angel is whom we see in rev 19 his red vesture shines upon the moon....
who else speaks to the fowls and they obey
And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
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who else speaks to the fowls and they obey
And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
I thought we were talking about frogs.
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"I'll take 'animals that start with the letter F" for $500, Alex."
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"I'll take 'animals that start with the letter F" for $500, Alex."
Ferengi, Trebek! (obligatory Sean Connery accent.)
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Revelation 16:13
And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs;
I think this is an interesting question. I don't know the answer, but I can make a couple of observations.
1. Frogs reminds me of the Exodus.
Perhaps John intends for us to find a connection there.
2. They come "out of the mouth" of the dragon et al.
Words come out of the mouth. So it seems as if the words will be frog-like in some way.
3. The frog-like words convince the world to gather for "for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty."
False teaching? Propaganda? Fake News? Bold faced lies?
4. In the New Testament (and perhaps Zechariah 13:2?) unclean spirits are associated with demon possession.
I suspect that the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet, are speaking through demon possessed human beings.
I'm not sure what sounds a frog might make that would remind me of false teaching.
Any ideas?
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I'm not sure what sounds a frog might make that would remind me of false teaching.
Any ideas?
No, but they do have a big mouth and a wicked tongue. That and they diet on bugs without blushing. Should be warning lights going off! ;)
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Maybe it's an ancient "blah blah blah" insult. "You blabber like a frog you philistine."
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And maybe, just maybe, we as believers need to learn how to properly read and understand various types of literature, and various types of literary devices.
First, what John says he saw, which is the use of a figure of speech called a personification and a simile. Clearly, unclean spirits are invisible, having no physical form, so they cannot be seen. As such, taking the unseen and attempting to communicate visible reality can only be accomplished by a figure of speech, a literary device, in which the author (John) attempts to express an abstract idea by use of giving physical or human attributes to the object. In other words, which the use of "froggishness" as, say, opposed to "snakeishness" or "goldfishishness" or "koalaishness"? To think that these are in appearance like a frog is foolishness, as these are demons, which cannot be seen. The "frogishness" can, accordingly, only apply to their unseemly actions viewed in a spiritual sense.
Secondly, the use of simile is the use of a comparison for explanation sake in which the words "like" or "as" are used a prepositions; here, "three unclean spirits" are not identified as frogs but explained by comparison to frogs. It is up to us, the reader, to figure out the "froglike" characteristics that could be applied to a trio of unclean spirits.
Thirdly, it takes only a modicum of familiarity with the Exodus story of the 9 pre-passover plagues to recognize the 7 bowls as being closely aligned with God's previous display of wrath and disfavor with various people . The Egyptians in Pharoah's day worship frogs in the persona of the idol and false god, Heqet. God's repetition of various plagues in the bowls of wrath (sores, water to blood, darkness, etc., would come as no surprise to any moderately religious student of the Old Testament during the late 60's A.D.
All that we can safely say about this isolated passage is that Satan (who is unequivocally the dragon), and the beast and the false prophet (whoever they are) control and send out demons as emissaries to the kings of the world to invoke war and conflict.
Efforts beyond that leave the realm of interpretation and move into the world of abject speculation.
Or, as the Aristophanes would put it, from his play The Frogs, "Brekekekex koax koax"
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Or, as the Aristophanes would put it, from his play The Frogs, "Brekekekex koax koax"
Followed up by The Clouds, to quench these obviously thirsty frogs.
I fear I need to start adding /s. Surely not.