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« Last post by RabbiKnife on May 08, 2024, 06:17:21 AM »
Just what we needed: to be drug through yet another salacious sex trial which is not a sex trial (of course).
As a trial lawyer, I can tell you. This judge has made the appeal both easy and hard. Easy because the irrelevance, immateriality, and prejudicial nature of the testimony and the foolish bootstrapping legal theory are something a first year law student would destroy. Hard because there is so much error from which to choose.
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« Last post by IMINXTC on May 07, 2024, 09:28:45 PM »
Just what we needed: to be drug through yet another salacious sex trial which is not a sex trial (of course).
EDIT: Sounds like a sex trial.
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« Last post by IMINXTC on May 07, 2024, 09:26:56 PM »
Just what we needed: to be drug through yet another salacious sex trial which is not a sex trial (of course).
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« Last post by tango on May 07, 2024, 04:25:22 PM »
An hour of speed repeats today. My legs weren't liking me much towards the tops of a few of the hills I sprinted. But with speed repeats I figure if my legs don't stop working near the top of at least some hills I'm not running hard enough.
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« Last post by RabbiKnife on May 06, 2024, 02:55:48 PM »
I understand.
hence the great divide between Judaism and the Gospel.
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« Last post by Fenris on May 06, 2024, 02:14:13 PM »
I understand your perspective. Thanks. It just isnt the ethic of the Gospel. And is completely separate from the role of civil government.
This is separate from the role of civil government. My grandmother passed away in 1974. I remember her as being a very sad person. Why was she sad? Because the Nazis murdered her entire family. She had 10 siblings, with spouses and children. One brother survived. Just one. Should she have forgiven? Turn the other cheek? Pray for the murderers of her entire family? The following prayer is said at Jewish services on Saturdays: May the All Merciful Father who dwells in the supernal heights, in His profound compassion, remember with mercy the pious, the upright and the perfect ones – the holy communities who gave their lives for the sanctification of the Divine Name. They were beloved and pleasant in their lives, and even in their death were not parted from Him; they were swifter than eagles and stronger than lions to carry out the will of their Maker and the desire of their Creator. May our God remember them with favor together with the other righteous of the world, and avenge the spilled blood of His servants, as is written in the Torah of Moses, the man of God: “O nations, sing the praises of His people, for He will avenge the blood of His servants, bring retribution upon His foes, and placate His land – His people. " And by Your servants the Prophets it is written as follows: “I will cleanse the nations of their wrongdoings, but for the shedding of Jewish blood I will not cleanse them; the Lord dwells in Zion.” And in the Holy Writings it is said: “Why should the nations say, “Where is their God?’’ Let there be known among the nations, before our eyes, the retribution of the spilled blood of Your servants. And it is said: “For the Avenger of bloodshed is mindful of them; he does not forget the cry of the downtrodden.” Further it is said: “He will render judgment upon the nations, and they will be filled with corpses. He will crush heads over a vast area, He will drink from the stream on the way; therefore Israel will hold its head high.”
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« Last post by RabbiKnife on May 06, 2024, 01:43:59 PM »
Actually, this is exactly what Jesus taught and what the apostles taught.
That's grace.
I will reiterate my comment. This is a moral abomination.
I understand your perspective. It just isnt the ethic of the Gospel. And is completely separate from the role of civil government.
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« Last post by Fenris on May 06, 2024, 01:39:36 PM »
Actually, this is exactly what Jesus taught and what the apostles taught.
That's grace. I will reiterate my comment. This is a moral abomination.
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« Last post by RabbiKnife on May 06, 2024, 12:46:23 PM »
So it's not OK to ask?
Complaining and asking for justice, salvation, restoration, healing etc. all okay, but vengeance is the domain of the Lord.
Yes. We aren't supposed to take vengeance. I don't have a problem with asking God to do it. Jesus goes one step further - Matt chapter 5 Yes yes this is all very interesting. "Turn the other cheek" isn't a Jesus invention, it's in the book of Lamentations. But I still don't have a problem with someone asking God to take vengeance. The guy whose wife and daughters were murdered by terrorists should not be expected to forgive and pray for those terrorists. That is a moral abomination. [/quote] Actually, this is exactly what Jesus taught and what the apostles taught. That's grace. It is the entire New Testament in a word. And no, it is not comprehensible from a human perspective, only from the perspective of the divine and the price paid to satisfy the wrath of God.
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« Last post by Fenris on May 06, 2024, 12:01:42 PM »
Complaining and asking for justice, salvation, restoration, healing etc. all okay, but vengeance is the domain of the Lord. Yes. We aren't supposed to take vengeance. I don't have a problem with asking God to do it. Jesus goes one step further - Matt chapter 5 Yes yes this is all very interesting. "Turn the other cheek" isn't a Jesus invention, it's in the book of Lamentations. But I still don't have a problem with someone asking God to take vengeance. The guy whose wife and daughters were murdered by terrorists should not be expected to forgive and pray for those terrorists. That is a moral abomination.
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